Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-26 Thread Safwat Halaby
On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 23:11 -0400, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: >  Fixing them by hand seems like a huge waste of the > community time I agree. This is purely mechanical work. Drudgery is evil. I'm willing to try writing a script once I finish my other scripting projects. This should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-26 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 04:03:35AM -0400, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > Sarah, my understanding is that MapRoulette does not support it -- I cannot > upload the following: > > For Object ID , change one set of tags for another -- accept or > decline? No you can't and you shouldn't. Clicking

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-26 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Sarah, my understanding is that MapRoulette does not support it -- I cannot upload the following: For Object ID , change one set of tags for another -- accept or decline? Would be great if I was wrong. Yes, the community can do it, the question is - should it? Given 2 challenges, one that

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-26 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 11:53:03PM -0400, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > According to Martijn (of MapRoulette fame), there is no way a challenge can > link to object IDs. MapRoulette can only highlight location. Nor can I > provide a proposed fix, which means someone would have to manually find the >

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-26 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Mark, these do rarely happen, but do they add value? Having data that points to a non-(machine)-verifiable redirect, a redirect that could be deleted or changed at any moment is very fragile. I think these should be resolved to the target, and treated as I described in [1] - links to wikipedia

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-26 Thread Mark Wagner
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:11:52 -0400 Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > At the moment, there are nearly 40,000 OSM objects whose wikipedia > tag does not match their wikidata tag. Most of them are Wikipedia > redirects, whose target is the right wikipedia article. What about the

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
You do have a valid point about getting the local community exposure to Wikidata. But I see no contradiction between that and my proposal, because I think it would be very easy to come up with countless Wikipedia/Wikidata cleanup tasks that require human attention. There is always be plenty of

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
By using Osmose, it would be possible to involve the local communities. People would learn about Wikidata, and might start adding them to other objects as well. They might even start contributing to Wikidata as well. By just running your program, you would only fix a small number of entries and

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
According to Martijn (of MapRoulette fame), there is no way a challenge can link to object IDs. MapRoulette can only highlight location. Nor can I provide a proposed fix, which means someone would have to manually find the broken object, navigate to Wikipedia, copy/paste the title, and save the

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
or via Osmose ? On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:16 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: > what about a Maproulette task ? > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Yuri Astrakhan > wrote: >> At the moment, there are nearly 40,000 OSM objects whose wikipedia tag does >> not

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing OSM wikipedia redirects

2017-09-25 Thread Marc Gemis
what about a Maproulette task ? On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:11 AM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: > At the moment, there are nearly 40,000 OSM objects whose wikipedia tag does > not match their wikidata tag. Most of them are Wikipedia redirects, whose > target is the right