Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Janice
I don't understand, with what all I have read from all of these explanations of embryonic stem cells NOT being actually embryonic, why hasn't this been on the national news and in the newspapers, etc., that it is NOT embryonic?Wouldn't that put a stop to such a huge debate and we could get

Re: [TMIC] Embrionic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread jrushton
Very well put, Mindy!! Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Lawrence King Date: 3/26/2009 9:32:41 PM To: tmic-list@eskimo.com Cc: Lawrence King Subject: Re: [TMIC] Embrionic Stem Cell Discussion Jim, I have even more respect for your view now that you have explained it in such a p

Re: [TMIC] Embrionic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread Lawrence King
Jim, I have even more respect for your view now that you have explained it in such a personal way. I haven't changed my own view but I love getting to wear the other persons moccasins (I'm Christian and my best friend is Buddhist). I'm thrilled at how well this discussion has gone (ca

Re: [TMIC] going to DC

2009-03-26 Thread Lawrence King
Try to find the Albert Einstein memorial near the Vietnam Vets Memorial & Constitution Ave. we wanted to get there but the bone chilling cold 9F. got the better of us and we gave up on both. It's a site most tourists miss and don't know about. and the museum of natural history is renova

Re: [TMIC] Embrionic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread Jim Lubin
They are just going to throw those unused blastocysts away only because someone is making the choice to do so. After they are created they remain frozen indefinitely until a decision is made by someone to remove them from their frozen state. I've seen the argument be made that they are going t

RE: [TMIC] Embryonic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread Jim Lubin
No, stem cells can not be extracted from an unfertilized egg alone. At 12:35 PM 3/26/2009, Tracey L. Black wrote: This may sound like a really stupid question, and I haven't researched it, but if I wanted to, could I donate some of my eggs to be used in stem cell for my daughter? Jim Lub

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Cody and Judy Kidwell
Jim.I agree with you completely and I like your explanations for your position on using stem cells. My daughter saved the umbilical cord blood from my last grandson in hopes that it may be of some benefit from me or him if necessary. I do have feelings that haunt me regarding using these ste

[TMIC] What a great video!

2009-03-26 Thread Jill Z
Jim, Thank you for the link to the video.   As a former fertility patient...My ex husband and I did fertility meds in '99-2000 and of course they cannot put all of the "cells" they make inside of you or you will end up like Octomom.  They freeze them for a later date.    In my case we got divorc

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Balmatmic
This is a very personal decision and we all have to make it for ourselves when and if the time comes. It's good to have a discussion about this as different views are expressed and information is dispensed that others may not be aware of. I also know that there are many children in the

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?), and signing

2009-03-26 Thread Balmatmic
It seems to me that ALL bills should be read prior to signing, but that's just me. I was always told not to sign anything that I haven't read. I will admit to not signing all documents in total, but I have skimmed over them. Just my 2 cents worth. Barbara A In a message dated 3/25/20

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Janice
I agree with Gary! I was under the impression that research was still being done, just not embryonic. Wouldn't it be tremendous if in a few years we could all throw away our canes, walkers, wheelchairs, meds - anything associated with TM! Janice - Original Message - From: gbthom

Re: [TMIC] Embryonic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread Janice
This is Janice. Count me in with NOT using embrionic stem cells.I thought there was a lot of work done with stem cells from after birth, etc. We don't have to go to embrionic cells. Am I wrong? - Original Message - From: Trudy Ogilvie To: Tracey L. Black Cc: Westgold

RE: [TMIC] Embryonic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread Tracey L. Black
I would agree 100% with that as well but as long as they are throwing them away, why shouldn't they be able to help someone? If it was a toss up between throwing them away and being able to provide a child to a couple that can't have children, then I am all for them going to the couple that would l

Re: [TMIC] Embryonic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread Melissa B
I'm sure there are many couples out there that can't have their own children that would love to have these instead of them being thrown away. - Original Message - From: Trudy Ogilvie To: Tracey L. Black Cc: Westgold ; ptpatti200...@aol.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursda

Re: [TMIC] Embryonic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread Trudy Ogilvie
Patti, I'm with you 100% also To put it mildly we have become the quintessential throw-away society.Trudy On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Tracey L. Black wrote: > *I would have to agree 100%.* > > * * > > *Tracey L. Black* > > *Certified Insurance Service Representative*** > > *Hockley

RE: [TMIC] Embryonic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread Tracey L. Black
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Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread jrushton
Thank you, Jim..Jeanne ---Original Message--- From: Jim Lubin Date: 3/26/2009 12:21:40 PM To: jrushton; Deborah Nord Capen; tmic Subject: Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?) Here it is. Worth watching. Stem Cells and Neuroregeneration – The Future Douglas A. Kerr, MD, PhD Johns Hopkins Univ

Re: [TMIC] Embrionic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread Westgold
They just throw those unused blastocytes in the garbage, they end up in some medical waste dump somewhere. Would you rather than that, than see those cells being used to help cure a lot of horrible diseases? You say that you support organ donation -- isn't giving these blastocytes a chance to

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Jim Lubin
Here it is. Worth watching. Stem Cells and Neuroregeneration – The Future Douglas A. Kerr, MD, PhD Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, MD http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-25453169972889015 http://www.myelitis.org/rnds2008/stem_cels_MN_and_GRP_2008.pdf At 09:27 AM 3/25/2009, jrushton wro

Re: [TMIC] Hi Everyone

2009-03-26 Thread Alle111
Hello Janice. Welcome, I just read your post. I am Ella in Ohio, I'm 49 and got TM in 2000. Have any questions just ask. Have a nice day.Ella **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make meals for Under $10. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0002

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Jim Lubin
Sure I would consider treatment from non hESC sources. As for the funding act that was signed into law. No funds in this act (which funds everything in the government between now through Sept 30, 2009) may be used for "embryos for research purposes" or " research in which a human embryo or emb

Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Jim Lubin
Sure I would consider treatment from non hESC sources. As for the funding act that was signed into law. No funds in this act (which funds everything in the government between now through Sept 30, 2009) may be used for "embryos for research purposes" or " research in which a human embryo or emb

[TMIC] Embrionic Stem Cell Discussion

2009-03-26 Thread ptpatti2009mi
I want to take a stand in the discussion regarding the use of?human embryos for research or healing.? I started following the healing possibilities?before I ever heard of TM, because my husband has been diabetic for twenty years. My husband's stand was that he would not use any method that invol

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Re: [TMIC] stem cell (OT?)

2009-03-26 Thread Melissa B
Jim, I have to say that I agree with you totally!! I feel that if anyone is going to do IVF that they should only create the ones that they are going to use. I also feel that if the only way for me to be healed is through embryonic stem cells then I never will be here on earth! I don't think