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Sent: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 17:56:10 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain management doctor
Alton, Don't you have
pain? What does the Baclofen do for you? I believe I take it for
spasms. Are you taking it for the same thing? If I don't take it my
right leg flies out of the b
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Sent: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:56:13 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain management doctor
What do you mean? I am going to have a pain pump
put in. My family Dr. didn't want to be responsible for my pills anymore,
so she referred me to a pain clinic and the Dr.
same for me with the baclofen.
From: "heyjude48...@aol.com"
To: a-ry...@comcast.net; pjv1...@chartermi.net
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain management doctor
Alton,
Don't you ha
Alton,
Don't you have pain? What does the Baclofen do for you? I believe I take
it for spasms. Are you taking it for the same thing? If I don't take it
my right leg flies out of the bed and if we go out, we have to strap my
legs into my chair because my feet won't stay on the foot peda
the last time i purchased an OZ and it was 40 bucks
an oz for the good stuff.
From: "fr...@franksheldon.com"
To: Robert Pall ; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain management
I have been p
thats hard to swollow Rob.
back in the 70's was the last time i purchased an OZ and it was 40 bucks an oz
for the good stuff.
From: "fr...@franksheldon.com"
To: Robert Pall ; tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:05 AM
Subj
I have been prescribed 2 oz of pot per month ...the problem is that the "legal"
pot is $450 per oz.
But I do agree that pot truly helps!!!
Rob in NJ
Sativex is sprayed under my tongue. I use it two or three times a day, with
little euphoria. It's a legal prescription drug, in Canada and soon t
I get my intrathecal Baclofen pump refilled by Dr Hyatt at the Pain Clinic at
CMC in Manchester, NH.
I do not get treated for pain.
Alton
- Original Message -
From: Pat Voorheis
To: tmic
Sent: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 01:21:21 - (UTC)
Subject: [TMIC] Pain management doctor
Please tell mor
a couple of years ago it didnt help me but it does nowodd
From: Robert Pall
To: fr...@franksheldon.com; heyjude48...@aol.com; pjv1...@chartermi.net
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain management
I
So, how did you hook up with a Physicians Assistant? I now have home
nursing and wouldn't want to lose that.
In a message dated 1/19/2013 6:59:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
pjv1...@chartermi.net writes:
I have been to a Physicians Assistant twice. My primary moved, his
replacement wou
Rob in NJ
-Original Message-
From: frank
To: Heyjude48458 ; pjv1234
Cc: tmic-list
Sent: Sat, Jan 19, 2013 2:32 pm
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain management
Hey,
Pumps don't allways work.
Don't let them talk you out of pain.
Consider Cannabis, or Sativex if you live in
I have been prescribed 2 oz of pot per month ...the problem is that the "legal"
pot is $450 per oz.
But I do agree that pot truly helps!!!
Rob in NJ
-Original Message-
From: frank
To: Heyjude48458 ; pjv1234
Cc: tmic-list
Sent: Sat, Jan 19, 2013 2:32 pm
Subject:
Patti,
Thank you. Yes, the Dr. I see is with McLaren. His name is Dr. Sabit, in
Lapeer. His home office is in Southfield. His number is: 810-667-7318
if Dr. Hagenstein wants to talk to him, but I don't know if that's such a
good idea.
Dr Sabit is the pain management Dr. who is taki
Frank,
I wondered what had become of you. It's been years since we have talked.
What have you been doing? What have you been up to?
How have you been feeling? Not much pain I guess, 'cause you smoke
cannabis.
Are you on Facebook, with Bernie and Kevin? I don't see you post there.
ude48...@aol.com)
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:23 AM
To: _jannic@centurytel.net_ (mailto:jan...@centurytel.net)
Cc: _tmic-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com)
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain management doctor
Janice,
I didn't realize that you have an implant for pain. Did we
@chartermi.net_ (mailto:pv...@chartermi.net)
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain management doctor
Janice,
I didn't know that you have an implant for pain. How do the magnets
differ from the pain medication pump. You say it is effective for you.
That's
great! What made you make the choice betwe
@chartermi.net_ (mailto:pv...@chartermi.net)
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain management doctor
Janice,
I didn't know that you have an implant for pain. How do the magnets
differ from the pain medication pump. You say it is effective for you.
That's
great! What made you make the choice betwe
Hey,
Pumps don't allways work.
Don't let them talk you out of pain.
Consider Cannabis, or Sativex if you live in Canabis
Try things
Frank
Who takes Nortriptolin, Dextromethorphin, Phenobarbitol,Sativex; uses self
hypnosis/meditation.
...@chartermi.net
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain management doctor
Janice,
I didn't know that you have an implant for pain. How do the magnets differ
from the pain medication pump. You say it is effective for you. That's great!
What made you make the choice between the two different types of impla
Janice,
I didn't realize that you have an implant for pain. Did we discuss it? I
don't remember. Anyway, why did you decide to have the magnets for pain
management vs. the medication delivery from the pump?
I wonder what the benefits are in having one over the other. When I
brought i
Janice,
I didn't know that you have an implant for pain. How do the magnets
differ from the pain medication pump. You say it is effective for you.
That's
great! What made you make the choice between the two different types of
implants?
Love,
Jude
In a message dated 1/18/2013 11:48
Pat,
I have been going to a pain management doc for 4 years and they have helped
me tremendously with pain.I have an implant in my hip/back area that is
connected to my spine. I turn on the implant with
a magnet that I touch where my implant is.It uses several - my choice -
sensations
What do you mean? I am going to have a pain pump put in. My family Dr.
didn't want to be responsible for my pills anymore, so she referred me to a
pain clinic and the Dr. there recommended the Matrix pain pump. First
they will do a trial somehow and then if it works a permanent pump will
Try sitting and relaxing!
Carol
Worrying does not empty
tomorrow of its troubles;
It empties today of its strengths.
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 07:38:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain
From: malugss...@gmail.com
To: skle...@cox.net; jan...@centurytel.net
CC: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Don't
27;Susan Kleinz' ; 'Janice Nichols'
Cc: tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Pain
My husband is permanently catherized because of the same reason.
It just wouldn’t work anymore….to pee with or anything else …LOL
From: Dalton Garis [mailto:malugss...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday
o.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain
Don't think it's just you ladies;
I stand in front of the porcelain throne, with my legs aching, waiting, and
begging, "Please, please .."
Dalton
From: Susan Kleinz
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 20:57:45 -0700
To: Janice Nichols
Cc:
Subjec
Don't think it's just you ladies;
I stand in front of the porcelain throne, with my legs aching, waiting, and
begging, "Please, please ."
Dalton
From: Susan Kleinz
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 20:57:45 -0700
To: Janice Nichols
Cc:
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain
Resent-From:
no, but it takes me a long time to pee!
On Feb 6, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Janice Nichols wrote:
Ladies,
Do any of you have burning sensations or spasms around/in your
urethra? I do, and have since TM struck.
I also feel a spasm in the urethra when I need to urinate.Does
any of this sound
I have.
Both were
Baclofen, one a replacement for the other to get new batteries.
Medtronics, the manufacturer, is the authority on using both meds mixed.
Alton
On Sep 4, 2010, at 2:30 PM, ladyno...@aol.com wrote:
> had the pump removed and reinstalled?
Thank you Todd, for the information and the prayers
Have a Blessed Day, Naomi
-Original Message-
From: Todd Tarno
To: LadyNotes
Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2010 2:33 pm
Subject: Fw: [TMIC] Pain Pump
Hey Naomi,
They should be able to replace the pump, if there isn't too much scare tissue
is some life we live. So many changes
to the body, choices to choose from, and decisions to make
Have a Blessed Day, Naomi
-Original Message-
From: Cindy McLeroy
To: LadyNotes
Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2010 4:17 pm
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain Pump
Hi, are you talking about the baclofen m
The way things never go right for me, hypnosis scares the hell out of me!
Janice
From: john snodgrass
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 2:58 PM
To: fr...@franksheldon.com
Cc: transverse myelitis
Subject: Re: [TMIC] pain management ideas
hypnosis sounds pretty cool as long as it doesn&#
from john snodgrass
Dennis,
How long have you been struggling with TM?
what combinations of meds have you tried?
I have been fighting it for 2.5 years, but hydrocodone and
Neuronton,Baclofin,and lorazepam seam to be helping me somewhat.
doesn't make everything peachy but allows me to functi
hi all. i wanted to ask what pain and nerve med's you all have taken
that works. i am always in pain. i am out of options with med's i
have taken. can anyone help?
dennis/tx
What have you taken that doesn't work? ( would save time in answering)
--
hypnosis sounds pretty cool as long as it doesn't take me back to the time i
was a paperboy being chased by the crazy dog!
--- On Sun, 8/15/10, fr...@franksheldon.com wrote:
From: fr...@franksheldon.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] pain management ideas
To: "john snodgrass" , "D
Hi All,
I'm not going to go over my pain meds ( Nortriptyline, Vitamin D,
Dextromethorphan, Cannabinoids, Phenobarbital) again.
My pain never really goes away unless I add a couple shots of Bourbon or other
high test drinks. I am able to keep my pain at #2 or 3 with meds.
What really hel
Dennis,
I don't think any of us are able to take enough meds to completely take the
pain away, but many of us feel it is at least controlled. I use neurontin
and
baclofen. It takes a while to figure out how many of each to take and at what
time of the day/nite to take them.I am fortuna
i believe it is a mixture of things that is unique to each individual.
baclofin,neurontin,hydrocodone,and lorazepam helps me to function.
the pain is always there but it is worse than i can bear without the meds.
and i do not believe that i have the meds just right yet.
still many spasms and mu
Hi Janice and a big warm welcome to the group. My name is Linda and I have had
TM for 7 years now. My lesions are at C4, 5 & 6 - cervical area. Mine started
with numbness and tingling in my toes and just worked its way up to my chest.
I had no feeling, but I could still walk - sort of. Once
Janice,I take 150mg. of Lyrica 2x a day. I also take 90mg. Cymbalta. I also
have been given vicodin if it really gets bad. I have a great deal of nerve
pain from the waist down. Fatigue is a huge problem. I'm sure the arthritis
doesn't help much! I have just begun a new exercise program to strength
Akua
Do you have MS? I am on Lyrica and Cymbalta. So I've got to figure out how
to work it all out. I have a prescription for LDN and I have decided to try
it. Were you on any drugs before the LDN?? I applaud you. I am not very
good about my diet and I know it is essential towards improving my hea
Dear Jude,After just reading your e-mail I surfed around on the net about
pressure sores and how serious and painful they can be. I found one site I
thought informative tho I have a feeling you know all this and are hoping
for some "new found" idea as to how to heal the pain.
As for the pain in you
Dear Jude,
I am so sorry that your family doesn't understand that you are not in any
condition to visit them. Heck, this isn't anything new for you or them, yet
they choose to behave this way and make you miserable again and again. It's
just not fair how they treat you and I am very sorry
Hi Jude:
I am so sorry you didn't have a Merry Christmas. We may not have sent an
e-mail, but know that you are in our thoughts and prayers every day. The
holiday season can either be a happy occasion or one that sends you in the
dumps. I, too, was in the dumps quite often. I am glad they a
Hi Candy, yes I was given this, and for me I just wanted more. I was like an
instant additive( I no that is not spelled right, but I think everyone knows
what I am saying)
So yes it does help with pain!! but be careful!
Jenna
- Original Message
From: CANDIS KALLEY <[EMAIL PROTECT
I am sorry that your neurologist won't prescribe any opiate based drugs, but
I am glad to hear that they help you. I have been living on them, and
thought that maybe I was crazy, as everything I have read indicates they do
not help TM, and should not be prescribed. But they do help, and yes, I am
Hi Natalie,
Why not try changing your family doctor. Sounds like he is stereotyping and
treating you as if you were an anxious and neurotic female. The aspirin dose
at that level is what they prescribe to deter heart attacks. And the Zanax,
alone like that, is what they give patients when they do
empty tomorrow of its troubles; It empties today of its
strengths.
-
From: Kevin Wolfthal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:56:54 -0400
>
>
>
>I tried Cymbalta
Kevin,So sorry your having meds problems! I think this will always be a huge problem for us. I switched from Neurontin (5 years) to Lyrica and also Cymbalta. So now I am on 2 75mg. of Lyrica twice a day. I also take 60mg. of Cymbalta. I also have percocet or Vicodin for when the pain gets severe.
Hi Kevin,
Please be careful if you are sensitive to cymbalta. I became extremely ill
when taking it. I too got sick in my stomach from it and felt very ill. Had
it been any worse, I would have needed to go to the emergency room. Luckily
I was able to wait for its effects to wear off.
I do not know
Hi Jeanne,
Lyrica made me feel sick. Nauseous and like I was going to pass out. I
tried it
as long as I could, hoping the side effects would pass, but I couldn't
take it.
Cymbalta gave me stomach problems, but I might try it one more time.
I'm going
to ask my doctor about it.
Best wis
I tried Cymbalta and didn't tolerate it, same with Lyrica unfortunately.
Xanax keeps my
heart rate normal and never made me sick. I take the smallest possible
dose and quantity per day
usually one or two, though I am allowed more.
All medications are potentially dangerous, even baby aspirin
And most likely if you get the pain to a tolerable level you won't need the anxiety medication. That's some pretty dangerous stuff. Ask your doctor to put you on cymbalta. It's the best thing I've found besides neurontin.
Larry in Oklahoma who's been down that road
Larry Throne, MSW
From: R
My personal (very unprofessional) theory is that it's sort of like
stopping a small baby from crying and making noises - expecting him
to either talk or keep quiet. His crying is part of the development
of his lungs and the noises are prerequisite to his learning to
talk. If you stop him from
I didn't have any pain at first, unless you count a little discomfort just
below my rght rib. (TM at C6-C8,) But as time goes by, I get more pain,
sometimes pretty bad. I realize now that I was numb at first, so I didn't FEEL
any pain. As I get more feeling, I get more pain. But on the othe
Amitriptyline is actually an anti-depressant usually in the oral form.
So, I can understand how that works. Anti-depressants have been widely
used in nerve pain control. However, when I tried it, it made my hair
fall out! Uch!
Sandy Brassil
Accounting Assistant
Alveolus, Inc.
"Inspiring
think of it something like electrical wires. If something happens
between the source of power and the outlet I am trying to use, there
may be no power -- or, if the damage is not complete, the power may
be "dimmer" or faulty somehow. It may even cause sparks to sputter
forth.
Excellent analo
I believe that we have, somewhere inside our brains and bodies, the
ability to overcome things like TM. We ought to be growing new
lines of communication between the brain and our bodies.
So do I. I envision the regrowth. I think the pain are nerves
regrowing. I am taking naltrexone and ca
Jude, it has helped me to think of it something like electrical wires. If
something happens between the source of power and the outlet I am trying to
use, there may be no power -- or, if the damage is not complete, the power may
be "dimmer" or faulty somehow. It may even cause sparks to sp
Thanks Bernie,
That really cleared things up for me. My brother lost a leg to cancer
radiation treatment and he had a terrible time treating the "phantom" pain.
I wonder why there would be such pain at the site of the incision if we
cannot feel anything? We don't feel pain on the outs
In a message dated 6/11/2007 11:02:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OH I WISH IT WAS POSSIBLE TO HAVE TM AND NO PAIN - I have such excruciating
pain in my lower back all the time - except when I first wake up and only
move my eyelids - when I start moving in the morn
I had awful pain the first 2 months, so much so that I wanted to die
so the pain would end. Decreased pain the next 3 month. Less pain the
next 6 months or so, then none since. I haven't had any recovery
since the first 5 months either.
Jim
At 07:34 AM 6/11/2007, Regina Rummel wrote:
Most of
After listening to everyone on this list, I feel like I have less
symptoms than most. But, I still feel constant pain and discomfort.
So, I'm going to guess that some sort of pain is just part of everyone's
experience with TM.
Tim Holder
Worship Leader for
Celebrate Recovery
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(5
OH I WISH IT WAS POSSIBLE TO HAVE TM AND NO PAIN - I have such excruciating pain in my lower back all the time - except when I first wake up and only move my eyelids - when I start moving in the morning the pain in the lower back just keeps esculating - at night when I'm going to go to sleep it t
It depends on who you talk to when you ask what state are you in, my wife might say something like "oh, he lives in Abbynormal land!" I live in S. E. Oklahoma, about 90 miles south east of OKC. It was an internal medicine doctor doing a fellowship from Mayo Clinic who diagnosed TM. All in All I th
Larry,
It amazes me that dr.'s where able to diagnose your TM 30 years ago. Can I
ask what state your lived in? What type of dr. back then was knowledgeable
enough to diagnosis it? 30 years is a longgg time for TM - wow... I've been
in chronic pain for neck and back pain f
Anyway, who else has burning pain like this in their feet all the time? It
really never, never leaves me. I was checked on an MRI for MS cause my pain
was so severe. Dr. said my pain was out of the norm to be as severe as it
was but she believed it was real. Natalie
Hello Natalie,
Th
I believe that burning in the feet is a relatively common side effect of
either the TM itself or the medication we take. Those who have been to see
Dr.
Kerr probably have the most up to date information and maybe they can be prom
pted to speak up on this and other new topic people have been
Hi All
I have the constant burning pain in my feet. I have just recently (past 10
days) come off of Lyrica and back on to gabapentin. A few of reasons: 1)
lyrica is so expensive, 2) I felt like I was needing the narcotics more,
3) I was wondering if my body was used to the lyrica and neede
Larry you're an inspiration!
Patti
Larry Throne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
=
My legs throb, burn and ache 24/7, and it has only gotten worse over the years. I have taken just about everything and none of them really ever eliminate the pain & discomfort. I think I have just gotten used to it. That along with the constant fatigue and back/trunk pain have all stayed mostly t
Natalie, I had that same burnins sensation on the bottom of my feet. I
don'tknow wht but that sensation was replaced with a vibrating type feeling
that is more agrivating than painful. Although it does hurt. I know that your
pain is also hard to explain. These Doctors cannot know how that pain
be pretty bad to have to go through all of that, huh?
Stacy
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From: cwk<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Kenneth Oliver<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ;
Tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:Tmic-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:57 PM
Su
. I only take anacin when I get a headache, I have not had anything take
away the pain for all these years.
Ken
Yes, Ken...but how do you manage to get through the long days and nights? I
am really serious. I'd like to be able to go without all of the medications
I take, but the pain
spreadsheet and graph where I tracked my progress if anyone is
interested.Cody in Austin
- Original Message -
From: Kenneth Oliver
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain
> My legs and feet swell and turn dark purple when they are in a downward
> position, but all the tests have come back negative for circulatory
> problems,
> even though they sometimes become icy cold to the touch.\
Hi,
It's very simple if you think back to med school:
Circulation in the
Hi Ken,
My legs and feet swell and turn dark purple when they are in a downward
position, but all the tests have come back negative for circulatory problems,
even though they sometimes become icy cold to the touch.
My new doctor is trying to handle one symptom at a time, then well look at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bernie [S&FS]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kenneth Oliver
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> Date: 3/14/2007 4:27:29 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain
&
/handling is added
with any eby item but you still can save $50 to $150.
Hope you are able to get one of the chairs. They are great.
Candy K.
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Wolfthal
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];Tmic-list@eskimo.com
Sent: 3/14/2007 3:22:01 PM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No
> I just purchased a HoMedics AntiGravity Recliner with Message and Heat.
Aren't they wonderful??
I bought mine several years ago- very plain- no heat, no vibration. cost $100,
approx.
With the money I saved, I can hire attractive young nursing students to massage
my body, and pass me tall d
oars. Atleast this website gives a
lifeline.
Candy K.
[Original Message]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bernie [S&FS]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kenneth Oliver
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Date: 3/13/2007
ginal Message]
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Bernie [S&FS]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kenneth Oliver
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> Date: 3/13/2007 4:22:41 PM
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain
&
Wednesday, March 14, 2007 12:29 AM
To: Butcher, Bernie [S&FS]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain
Hi Bernie
I am C7 and have normal feelings from just above the upper shoulder
blade, but the burning stinging pain is from there down, with my feet
and
take anacin when I get a headache, I have not had anything take away the pain for all these years.
Ken
From: "Butcher, Bernie [S&FS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Subject: RE: [TMIC] Pain vs No painDate: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:19:57
pril first. Just hope I can hang in there for awhile longer.
Ken in rain soaked Central Tx.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tmic-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No painDate: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 09:11:20 EDT
Hi Ken,
My left hand and right calf and ankle (which were the l
: Re: RE: RE: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain
> Completely upside down? - I'll try the pillows first.
Completely upside down. I strap my ankles in lie back- the bed is
horizontal at this point, but when I move my arms over my head, It swings
vertical, me hanging.
Feels great
F
> Completely upside down? - I'll try the pillows first.
Completely upside down. I strap my ankles in lie back- the bed is horizontal
at this point, but when I move my arms over my head, It swings vertical, me
hanging.
Feels great
F
Completely upside down? - I'll try the pillows first.
BERNARD BUTCHER
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:47 AM
To: Butcher; Butcher, Bernie [S&FS]; Kenneth Oliver;
Tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: RE: [TMIC
Completely upside down? - I'll try the pillows first.
BERNARD BUTCHER
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:47 AM
To: Butcher; Butcher, Bernie [S&FS]; Kenneth Oliver;
Tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: RE: [TMIC] P
I hang my ankles 30 minutes, twice a day.
my legs/ ankles are locked into a foam filled ankle cuff
Cumfy!
f
Thanks Frank how long do you hold this pose?
BERNARD BUTCHER
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:30 AM
To: Kenneth Oliver; Tmic-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain
Ken,
I get swelling of my left leg
Ken,
I get swelling of my left leg- the leg most affected neurologically. the only
thing is to get my feet above my heart. I use an inversion apparatus to flip
up and hand by my ankles. It also helps my low back!
lying down on your back with tw pillows under your calves woorks too.
hope tha
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Subject: Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No pain
Hi Ken,
My left hand and right calf and ankle (which were the limbs worst
affected by TM) have been a little swollen ever since onset -
Hi Ken,
My left hand and right calf and ankle (which were the limbs worst affected
by TM) have been a little swollen ever since onset -- no idea why.
Barbara H.
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In a message dated 3/13/2007 1:01:50 AM Eastern Daylight Tim
ny trouble with feet and legs swelling? If so have you found any help for this.
Ken in Central Tx
From: Kevin Wolfthal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tmic-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [TMIC] Pain vs No painDate: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:01:10 -0500>Hi Patty,>>I think I
Ah, yes. That's me: "burning-freezing feeling." I hadn't heard anyone
describe it before, but that's exactly it for me!
I guess typos are also a symptom of TM!
Patti
James Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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James Bray wrote:
> It is just *perceived* to be in the leg, because the spinal nerves
> damaged are the the ones that control sensation for that part of the
> body.
Lol - I really should che
No Jim, you caught a typo that I missed. I meant to say that I'm envious of
people who do NOT have pain. Sorry
Patti
James Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Envious? You're envious of people that are in pain?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am always surprised and admittably en
Hi Patty,
I think I understand what you mean. Are you saying that at least those
of us with TM feel *something* and you have no sensation at all?
As one of those who has had pain since the onset of TM in 1988, that's
almost 20 years, I can tell you it is nothing to be envious of. It makes
me p
James Bray wrote:
It is just *perceived* to be in the leg, because the spinal nerves
damaged are the the ones that control sensation for that part of the
body.
Lol - I really should check before posting. i meant to say
"perceived to be where you are feeling pain".
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