Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-02-18 Thread Phil Leigh
This paper explains a lot, including why "SACD" material usually appears as 24/88.2 PCM outside of an SACD player. It also explains why Sony pushed DSD so hard. Clearly HDTracks could save a bunch of money by using a modded Oppo SACD player to extractthe 24/88.2, but the implication of this pape

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-02-18 Thread DaveWr
mortslim;518450 Wrote: > So HDtracks claims: “In regards to the high resolution > albums that we offer, all of our 96/24 albums are from the original > studio masters. For some of the 88.2/24 albums, they are also from the > > original analogue tape masters.” > > What’s glaring by its omissio

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] FLAC vs Apple Losseless

2010-02-18 Thread Mnyb
Yes ALAC is transcoded to FLAC on the fly by the server (maybe Touch gets native playback). So the server must be able to do it (tiny NAS no go :( ). FLAC is native to most older and current squeezeboxes. And it's the most common lossless format in sbs/squeezebox thus being less likely to be bugg

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-02-18 Thread Kevin Haskins
Whether you can hear it or not is not the point. The fact that many people believe THEY can hear it and are willing to pay for it is why it has value. If you can advertise 24/192 and use that in the marketing materials it has financial value and it is another item on the bullet list of features.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] FLAC vs Apple Losseless

2010-02-18 Thread metalbob
I'm running all Mac these days, but using an older PC for ripping purposes. I'm sticking with ALAC as I find doing any kind of metadata editing on the Mac is a nightmare. Easier to do it all in iTunes. There was some speculation that the Touch would not play ALAC natively and would convert it o

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-02-18 Thread mortslim
So HDtracks claims: “In regards to the high resolution albums that we offer, all of our 96/24 albums are from the original studio masters. For some of the 88.2/24 albums, they are also from the original analogue tape masters.” What’s glaring by its omission is that Puget Sound says it is doing

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] FLAC vs Apple Losseless

2010-02-18 Thread iwannatouch
atrocity;518429 Wrote: > In my testing a year or so back, stereo Apple Lossless files were > slightly larger than their FLAC level 8 counterparts and mono files were > a *lot* larger. Funny, when I compared the two several weeks ago I thought the M4a file was slightly smaller, but damn, you're ri

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] FLAC vs Apple Losseless

2010-02-18 Thread atrocity
iwannatouch;516797 Wrote: > I'm in the process of archiving my music (both downloads and CDs) and I > decided to convert everything that wasn't mp3 into m4a files. This > includes all my wav, aiff, ape, and flac files. My goal is to reduce the > amount of space needed to store my music In my tes

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date

2010-02-18 Thread Pat Farrell
mlsstl wrote: > adamslim;518367 Wrote: >> Begs the question as to why then have a subforum about it. One that >> starts with a press release from early September announcing the product. > > I'd suspect that is a relic of the days before the master plan went > south on them. No, it was because

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date

2010-02-18 Thread iPhone
adamslim;518367 Wrote: > Begs the question as to why then have a subforum about it. One that > starts with a press release from early September announcing the product. Maybe because the cat was out of the bag and -They- thought it would be released in a few months. The press release was to stop

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date

2010-02-18 Thread mlsstl
adamslim;518367 Wrote: > Begs the question as to why then have a subforum about it. One that > starts with a press release from early September announcing the product. I'd suspect that is a relic of the days before the master plan went south on them. ;-) -- mlsstl -

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread funkstar
DaveWr;518277 Wrote: > Because TinySC can't handle the transcoding issues for playback of non > native streams, so major limitations on radio stations etc. I think > however, the Touch in a new world, no old players, will find significant > favour in new startup users, and if plug-ins migrate to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date

2010-02-18 Thread adamslim
Begs the question as to why then have a subforum about it. One that starts with a press release from early September announcing the product. -- adamslim You can't have too much music, but I do have too much hifi Rock/Excalibur/Decca, Linn Akurate Skweezy DS, Audion Pre, 6B4G death traps, Low

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR pass-through to receiver?

2010-02-18 Thread crazyj
I believe that since it receives NEC signals and transmits NEC signals, all should be well with my Yamaha receiver. Anyone know if the headphone plug also receives signals sent from a source, as in controlling the Touch from another room? If not, I may have to add an emitter on the front of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-02-18 Thread matka
mortslim;518305 Wrote: > The statement from HDtracks is internally inconsistent. Since it is a > digital to digital conversion, which it admits by saying "from the DSD > stream of the SACD", then, by definition, it is NOT a "native high > resolution recording". It is not native, it is converted

[SlimDevices: Touch] Title formatting in Touch (squeezeplay)

2010-02-18 Thread ulvi
Why is it that the title format in squeezeplay (and, I am assuming, in Touch) not customizable? I would like to have the same customized scrolling title formatted as I have in my current squeezebox classic. Currently on squeezeplay this display appears to have the fixed format of "TITLE" only (unl

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any known disk limit?

2010-02-18 Thread JohnSwenson
The touch supports FAT32, ext2, ext3 and NTFS. There has been some discussion about ext4 but I'm not sure about where that sits right now. I have used all of the 4 mentioned above and they all work just fine. John S. -- JohnSwenson ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-02-18 Thread mortslim
firedog;518291 Wrote: > direct from the DSD stream of the SACD. > They are all native high resolution recordings and are not up sampled. > > The statement from HDtracks is internally inconsistent. Since it is a digital to digital conversion, which it admits by saying "from the DSD stream of

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-02-18 Thread mortslim
Two posts on computeraudiophile.com: “Linn is transparent about the origin of their files. 2L also. But HDTracks seems to sell resampled RR material at 24/96 and is not transparent about the source.” … Then next post: “…DSD has a base freq of 44.1 and is clocked at 44.1 We do all the SACD/DSD/DV

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-02-18 Thread firedog
I wrote HD Tracks asking whether their "hi-res" 24/88 and 24/96 files are true hi-res or not. Here is the answer: "Thank you for your email. Regarding our high resolution 96/24 and 88.2/24 files (these are indicated with red text either below or above the album cover art that reads "Audiophile

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread DaveWr
aubuti;518268 Wrote: > Why? Someone can buy one Touch and put slim players (SB3s, SBRs, Booms, > or Radios) in other rooms. They can all run off TinySBS. I think your > idea of continuing in the slim client direction with an OEM > Sheevaplug-like server has a lot of merit, but I also suspect that

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Unofficial official Release Date

2010-02-18 Thread mlsstl
tomasito;518043 Wrote: > what's the latest about the date of release... silence would mean it's > not realeasing any soon, or logitech would have made a big buzz about it Given Logitech's poor history of handling this situation, I would strongly suspect they've instructed all employees to just k

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread aubuti
DaveWr;518242 Wrote: > Anybody wanting multi-room capability is repeatably paying for a > simplified server capability. Why? Someone can buy one Touch and put slim players (SB3s, SBRs, Booms, or Radios) in other rooms. They can all run off TinySBS. I think your idea of continuing in the slim clie

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/192

2010-02-18 Thread R Johnson
mortslim;518038 Wrote: > I have confirmed from another phone call that indeed HDtracks does NOT > get the higher resolution masters from the Chicago Symphony Orchestra. > > I spoke to the owner of the recording studio that does work for > HDtracks. This studio claims to have the professional e

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] IR pass-through to receiver?

2010-02-18 Thread DaveWr
The answer is maybe with an emitter. It depends on what your HT receiver uses as IR codes. See this post, and related bugs, from the creator of the IRBlaster plugin. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=514451&postcount=4 By the way he now works for Logitech Squeezebox software team

[SlimDevices: Touch] IR pass-through to receiver?

2010-02-18 Thread crazyj
Can someone explain to me how the Touch will handle IR? If I send IR to the Touch with my HT-receiver's remote, will it blast the signal if I use an emitter, or directly connect to my receiver's IR-in plug? -- crazyj craz

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any known disk limit?

2010-02-18 Thread iPhone
crazyj;518236 Wrote: > But the Touch uses only FAT32, no? Have NTFS, EXT3, etc. been tested > and work? Yes to Linux and I believe NTFS is now supported in the latest software/firmware IIRC. -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraS

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread funkstar
DaveWr;518242 Wrote: > I think with the limitations TinySC has, then total system cost > reduction will only apply for a few. Anybody wanting multi-room > capability is repeatably paying for a simplified server capability. > IMHO it would have made more sense to minimize player cost (it is only

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread DaveWr
aubuti;518195 Wrote: > That's true, although even Logitech wouldn't have been dumb enough to > slap an LCD on the ageing IP3K platform, so a 'revamping' of the SB3 > would not be trivial. But the product direction is clearly away from > slim clients and toward 'fat' clients. That does involve hig

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread Keymaster
svtdoug;517678 Wrote: > First off, Logitech has discontinued the SB Receiver and will be > discontinuing the Duet soon - see > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75201&page=2 - where they > discuss the fate of the Duet. It becomes clear that Logitech is > planning to replace the Duet

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any known disk limit?

2010-02-18 Thread crazyj
jimbo45;518131 Wrote: > > In the case of Windows with NTFS it's around 16 EXABYTES -- thats 2 to > the power of 60 for the theoretical disk size maximum. > But the Touch uses only FAT32, no? Have NTFS, EXT3, etc. been tested and work? -- crazyj

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread aubuti
yerma;518082 Wrote: > No, that's not what I meant. I was referring to the "Duet2", Okay, I see what you mean, and that makes sense to me. Until the "Duet2" appears, you could always get a Touch, remove the leg that holds it upright, and lay it face down on top of your audio rack. The cable angle

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread aubuti
DaveWr;518086 Wrote: > The implication from these comments is that the Touch (and associated > architectural changes) are adding significantly to the new Squeeze > playback devices. The SB3 revamped with LCD would have been > significantly less expensive product direction. That's true, although

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Auto Playlist for the Touch?

2010-02-18 Thread Philip Meyer
wimpf;518123 Wrote: > Will there be a feature available for the Touch to generate playlists > automatically Officially supported by Logitech - no. This is one of the areas of functionality that is most frequently requested (it is one of the first enhancement requests in bugzilla), but over the y

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any known disk limit?

2010-02-18 Thread Rikk
jimbo45;518131 Wrote: > The Windows OS currently can handle a maximum size of 256 Terabytes -- > way way short of the theoretical maximum of 16 EXABYTES. that's ok, I think it will be enough for my library :) -- Rikk

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Any known disk limit?

2010-02-18 Thread jimbo45
Hi there I think the theoretical maximum disk size (assuming you can build the hardware) is the limit that the file system and the OS can handle. In the case of Windows with NTFS it's around 16 EXABYTES -- thats 2 to the power of 60 for the theoretical disk size maximum. All the USB does is sup

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread jimbo45
yerma;517866 Wrote: > That is, unless they're planning a Duet2, something like a Touch > (including USB-drive support and TinySC), but without a display, plus > the Controller. > > That would be some helluva device, as it would give beginners an easy > entry into the world of Squeezebox, and not

[SlimDevices: Touch] Auto Playlist for the Touch?

2010-02-18 Thread wimpf
Hi Will there be a feature available for the Touch to generate playlists automatically after I put more music on the USB drive? E.g. Playlist for all Songs from the 80s. Playlist of the Top 50 heared songs. ... Thanxs, Wimpf -- wimpf

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread DaveWr
andynormancx;518097 Wrote: > Maybe, but only because of the initial investment in the new product > line. When the SB3 launched it was a very similar price to what the > Touch will be at launch, it has come down in price over time. > > Besides, "revamp" kind of underplays the amount of effort/co

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread andynormancx
DaveWr;518086 Wrote: > The implication from these comments is that the Touch (and associated > architectural changes) are adding significantly to the new Squeeze > playback devices. The SB3 revamped with LCD would have been > significantly less expensive product direction. > Maybe, but only bec

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread DaveWr
aubuti;517877 Wrote: > > > You should also note that a Touch without a display would cost almost > as much as the Touch with the display. The SBR cost a lot less than the > Classic because the VFD was the most expensive single component in the > Classic. The Touch's LCD screen is a very small f

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Doesn't make sense to me...

2010-02-18 Thread yerma
aubuti;517877 Wrote: > I don't see how a Touch is "useless for users with an existing SB > infrastructure". No, that's not what I meant. I was referring to the "Duet2", that a new receiver with TinySC would still be as useful as the current receiver for people like me who put their Squeezebox dee