Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread JohnSwenson
The TOSLINK receiver modules don't have very high bandwidth which can make them problematical for higher rates. The limitation is probably of the form: it may not work if you use long cheap optical cables with poorly polished connectors". In your situation it could just be that the transmitter i

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
Steve, thank you - I was aware of this restriction, which is the reason for my inquiry here. For some reason, though, my rDAC is playing 88.2 and 96 files through its optical input although it should not do so. Okay, I finished my measurements using my PC soundcard. For testing purposes, I have

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread SteveEast
Looking at the manual (http://www.arcam.co.uk/_ugc/file/rDac_ManML.pdf) for the rDac it gives the following for supported sample rates: USB 32kHz, 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz Optical 44.1kHz, 48kHz Coaxial 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz, 192kHz Steve. -- SteveEast Home: 3*SB3

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
Phil, yes, same files. Okay, what I am doing now, I have taken my SBT up to my PC and connected it to the SPDIF and optical input of my Soundblaster X-Fi. This reads 24/96 and should have SOME way to display what my SBT is actually outputting while playing these hi res files, right? Will report

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Tom186;610182 Wrote: > Phil, > > sounds like good news! There is no sox.exe running. What I do find is a > process called "flac.exe", and I do not know what it is, but hey. > > Still, what makes me sceptical here is that I already tested whether > rDAC Toslink Optical takes an 88.2 or 96 signal

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
Phil, sounds like good news! There is no sox.exe running. What I do find is a process called "flac.exe", and I do not know what it is, but hey. Still, what makes me sceptical here is that I already tested whether rDAC Toslink Optical takes an 88.2 or 96 signal when generated my MacBook. It does

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Tom186;610167 Wrote: > Hi Phil, > > yes, I tried both - FLAC streaming and PCM streaming. Effect is the > same, in both cases my 24/48 DAC happily plays a file that should be > 24/96. > > I change the PCM/FLAC settings in Files Types. No direct editing of the > sox parameter line. Double-checke

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
Hi Phil, yes, I tried both - FLAC streaming and PCM streaming. Effect is the same, in both cases my 24/48 DAC happily plays a file that should be 24/96. I change the PCM/FLAC settings in Files Types. No direct editing of the sox command line. Double-checked that the same problem occurs with a fr

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Instead of pasting the log into text inside a message, just upload the whole server.log file as an attachment to a message... that gets rid of the size restrictions and "smileys"... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Tom186;610068 Wrote: > ... okay, it will just not let me post enough of the log here, it reads > the file references as images and stops me from posting them here. > > What in particular are we looking for? I'll pick the right bits then. > > A few ones that strike me as relevant: > [11-02-10 19

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
... okay, it will just not let me post enough of the log here, it reads the file references as images and stops me from posting them here. What in particular are we looking for? I'll pick the right bits then. A few ones that strike me as relevant: [11-02-10 19:34:21.3728] Slim::Player::Transcodi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread Tom186
Hello, thanks for waiting. I just confirmed that my "24/48" DAC still magically plays the 24/96 files that I am sending it via Squeezebox, and I confirmed that this happens whether I send the files as FLAC (for native decoding) or as PCM (decoded on the server). In this mail, I am sending a fe

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-10 Thread firedog
ben hudson;608632 Wrote: > That was it! Works fine when the touch isn't synchronized with any SB3. > Thanks a bunch for the help. That wasn't something I would have thought > to check. It will also happpen even if the hi-res is on a server and : a)you decode files at the server (and not the pla

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-09 Thread Tom186
Thanks Phil - travelling until the weekend and will follow your instructions on Friday ! Thomas -- Tom186 Tom186's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43852 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-08 Thread Phil Leigh
Tom186;609302 Wrote: > Phil, > > thanks very much for putting some thought to my problem. > > 1) is not the case, I only have one SBT in my system, and the server > does only show this one device as recognized > > 2) have not fiddled, at least not knowingly. Is there any way and other > progra

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-08 Thread Tom186
Phil, thanks very much for putting some thought to my problem. 1) is not the case, I only have one SBT in my system, and the server does only show this one device as recognized 2) have not fiddled, at least not knowingly. Is there any way and other program on my machine might have interfered wi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-08 Thread Phil Leigh
Tom186;609114 Wrote: > Thanks ray ... I do not think the DAC is doing anything at this stage. I > tried to feed the DAC with 24/88.2 and 24/96 via optical cable, sent > from my MacBook Pro, and it just will not take it. > > So this is something that Squeezebox does. My optimistic guess is that >

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-07 Thread Tom186
Thanks ray ... I do not think the DAC is doing anything at this stage. I tried to feed the DAC with 24/88.2 and 24/96 via optical cable, sent from my MacBook Pro, and it just will not take it. So this is something that Squeezebox does. My optimistic guess is that there is a handshake via TOSLink

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-07 Thread rayman1701
First, I don't have any idea on what your DAC may be doing, I'll leave that to more knowledgeable folks. But I KNOW via on screen display thru my receiver that the Touch does play back Hi-Res Files, everything registers correctly and even plays back some dts CD's that I have ripped perfectly, and

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-07 Thread Tom186
Hello, I have another question regarding possible downsampling of 24/88.2 or 24/96 files by Squeezebox Touch or the server. I have followed the forums so far, noting that with standard settings, my hi res files will not be downsampled when I stream them to my SBT. I also understand that even tho

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-05 Thread Mnyb
ben hudson;608632 Wrote: > That was it! Works fine when the touch isn't synchronized with any SB3. > Thanks a bunch for the help. That wasn't something I would have thought > to check. This is because normally when you sync your server transcode to 24/48 so that the SB3 can play, and all player

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-05 Thread ben hudson
That was it! Works fine when the touch isn't synchronized with any SB3. Thanks a bunch for the help. That wasn't something I would have thought to check. -- ben hudson ben hudson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/m

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-05 Thread ben hudson
Ahh. I do have the touch sync'd with one other SB3. I will try changing that an see what happens. Thanks. -- ben hudson ben hudson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29065 View this thread: http://f

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-05 Thread ben hudson
Thanks for the quick replies. I haven't tried getting playing them from the server yet. That is certainly something I plan to try. But is there any reason they shouldn't play from the USB port? -- ben hudson ben hudson's

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-05 Thread garym
rgro;608622 Wrote: > The Touch plays 24/96 files just fine. I don't have SB3's but I seem to > remember something about if the Touch and SB3's are synched, and because > SB3's will not play 24/96 files, it creates some sort of issue? > Oram I misremembering?? you are correct. -- garym -

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-05 Thread rgro
The Touch plays 24/96 files just fine. I don't have SB3's but I seem to remember something about if the Touch and SB3's are synched, and because SB3's will not play 24/96 files, it creates some sort of issue? Oram I misremembering?? -- rgro Rick System information --

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-05 Thread edmondwolfman
ben hudson;608603 Wrote: > Long time Squeezebox owner here. I own 3 SB3s and just got a Touch for > Christmas. I've just gotten around to trying some Hi-Res files in the > Touch and was surprised to find that they won't play. > > The files are 24/96 FLAC files downloaded from HDtracks and put

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-05 Thread garym
ben hudson;608603 Wrote: > Long time Squeezebox owner here. I own 3 SB3s and just got a Touch for > Christmas. I've just gotten around to trying some Hi-Res files in the > Touch and was surprised to find that they won't play. > > The files are 24/96 FLAC files downloaded from HDtracks and put

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-05 Thread amcluesent
>Any ideas?< What happens when you index the files on your main Squeezebox Server (I assume you have one to run 3 SB3s) -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this t

[SlimDevices: Touch] 24/96 unsupported sample rate on Touch

2011-02-05 Thread ben hudson
Long time Squeezebox owner here. I own 3 SB3s and just got a Touch for Christmas. I've just gotten around to trying some Hi-Res files in the Touch and was surprised to find that they won't play. The files are 24/96 FLAC files downloaded from HDtracks and put on a USB thumb drive. I plug the USB