RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-28 Thread Kevin Deegan
BLAINE SAYS I believe the Hebrew word that was interpreted to mean "sticks" is a word that generally relies upon the conttext for meaning. But it always has the meaning of something made of or related to wood.   The Hebrew word ates is used 300 times. It is translated "stick" fourteen times, someti

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-18 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: Hey Kevin...I don't remember seeing your picture on the TT site, so I was happy to see what you looked like on the site you linked to below. THANK YOU. I had visualized you as being quite different. Now...how about sending DavidM an updated picture for INNGLORY? (For some reaso

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-18 Thread Kevin Deegan
There used to be a secret Mormom web site I could point you too that had all of the guys pictures, place of employment, type of career and names. They took it down after I confronted them about why they had that kind of info sort of like a dosier.   Anyway  I have Grey Hair and my beard is very sh

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 *REPRIMAND*

2005-01-17 Thread Kevin Deegan
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RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 *REPRIMAND*

2005-01-17 Thread Slade Henson
I understand you have a hatred to Mormonism, but do yourself a favor and don't let that splash onto the Mormon themselves.   -- slade -Original Message-From: Kevin DeeganSent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 22.48Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Cut the fables

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
Come on multiple truths?   The context is Right in the text on the sticks and it is in the words themselve NO  O. T. Prophet ever wrote scripture on "sticks" Ezekial wrote "for Judah" on the sticks Not scripture. try reading verse 16   I don't have to interpret I just have to read more than one ver

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ha! Signs and all, I can see it happening . . . the last time I talked to any of those guys was during the Autumn Conference, 2003 (?). Someone pointed out Kevin as being that "big fellow." I caught a glimpse of him, red hair and all, as he was folding up his sign, but I was driving around

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nuary, 2005 10.47 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 I believe the Hebrew word that was interpreted to mean "sticks" is a word that generally relies upon the conttext for meaning. But it always has the meaning of something made of or related to w

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote: Well, don't you want ALL of the TT'ers to show up??? :-) Izzy DAVEH:  Sure I do, Izzy.   But I prefer they join in the feast, rather than make me the sacrificial lamb!    :-) DAVEH: HThat's an interesting idea, Blaine. But..I suppose if we

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread Slade Henson
Ahturkey ham...GREAT! :) I'm not one for matzah ball soup, but I can make it. We usually have lamb, matzah ball soup, salmon, and other items...it's a feast for sure...   Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave HansenSe

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Well, don't you want ALL of the TT'ers to show up??? :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 12:22 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread Dave Hansen
Slade Henson wrote: Sorry, Dave, but we don't celebrate Christmas. The next Holy day coming up is Passoverwould you like to attend our family Seder? DAVEH:    H.That is tempting, Kay.  Would you like me to bring a Kosher ham?  ;-)   Kay DAVEH:  Thou

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-15 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin Deegan wrote: Hello Dave Please explain.You left me out in the cold on this one. How are the Qoutes from the Prophets and General Authorities out of CONTEXT? I just don't see it maybe you could help me. Please provide exampleS DAVEH:   Here is a quote... This Church is

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:38:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BlaineRB:  Hey, Dave, I was over to Antelope Island (in the Great Salt Lake) the other day, and I got to thinking it would be a great place to hold a TT reunion!  They have a

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread ttxpress
myth (in the available OT lit, the 'gods' are obviously the Prophets therein..while the WoG isn't elevatg these men, it isn't elevatg anyone--this has something to do with JCs rage against the machine by which the Prophets were systematically eliminatd)     On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 22:07:07 -0800

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: HThat's an interesting idea, Blaine. But..I suppose if we did it, the TT street preachers would only show up to protest the event. :-D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BlaineRB: Hey, Dave, I was over to Antelope Island (in the Great Salt Lake) the other day, and I got to thi

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:23:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Slade Henson wrote: How many wives do you have, Dave? DAVEH:  Just one, Kay. But not because JSmith said so, right DaveH? Izzy

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:  Thanx IzzyI don't recall anybody defining it in quite this way before.  Of all you mentioned, I think Judge a tree by its fruit is most likely the best indicator, though I suspect many would disagree with me on that. ShieldsFamily wrote: But when I have trouble

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
real estate agent who reported it to me.   Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 09.55 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:  Thanx for your explanation, DavidM.   Yesit does help me understand your/Perry's perspective much better.     Do you know why they would have translated angels or judges as gods?  Does that not seem a little out of character for the translators when they knew the people were told t

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2   He didn't ask what a Christian is NOT, he asked what the definition for Christian IS. He didn't ask about Joseph Smith and his alleged activities or ideas are/were.   Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:50:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LDS are Henotheists Is Hugh Hefner a Mormonbeing a prolific heontheists, lao, all these years ?  JD  Shocked

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
Ezekiel chapter 37, John. v. 15-38   K. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 19.16To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2In a message dated 1/14/

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:38:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BlaineRB:  Hey, Dave, I was over to Antelope Island (in the Great Salt Lake) the other day, and I got to thinking it would be a great place to hold a TT reunion!  They have a nice park there, lots of Bison, de

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/14/2005 6:27:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Perry, some biblical passages used by Mormons do seem nebulous as to what they mean--but please consider the possibility that the meaning ascribed to the passage by Mormons may actually be t

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
ining two PEOPLE'S Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 14 January, 2005 10.47 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 I believe the Hebrew word that was interpret

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
day, 14 January, 2005 09.23 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Pardon me for intervening--Perry makes some good points in general, but fails to give specifics. He says, "I consider the verses from the Bible that you quote in support of LDS doctrin

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread ShieldsFamily
where COLDER! (But it just might work in August???) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 8:35 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 BlaineRB: Hey,

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin Deegan wrote: Have we established that unless I join the LDS Church i can not be saved? DAVEH:    No, Kevin.you've just taken a lot of stuff out of context. -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive t

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin Deegan wrote: LDS are Henotheists DAVEH:  Just remember that worship only one God. They have a monolatrous relationship with & worship the "god of this world" DAVEH:  Then it seems to me your above assertion LDS are Henotheists is misleading.   It seems monolatrism is the belief

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:  Thank you, Terry.  I need all the help I can get!    :-) Terry Clifton wrote: Dave H I pray for him, though probably not often enough.  Terry -- ~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~ If you wish to receive things I

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BlaineRB: Hey, Dave, I was over to Antelope Island (in the Great Salt Lake) the other day, and I got to thinking it would be a great place to hold a TT reunion! They have a nice park there, lots of Bison, deer, bobcats, etc. There is the old Brigham Young farm, with lots of antiques showing

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread Slade Henson
nt: Friday, 14 January, 2005 09.23 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Pardon me for intervening--Perry makes some good points in general, but fails to give specifics. He says, "I consider the verses from the Bible that you quote in support of LDS

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pardon me for intervening--Perry makes some good points in general, but fails to give specifics. He says, "I consider the verses from the Bible that you quote in support of LDS doctrine to be prooftexts because out of context they contain some of the words in the LDS doctrine for which

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:04:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: must you argue with every word I speak? Give me a break. Izzy Back atcha on that --  in triplicate.  Grace and unmerited love and patience are the first things I think of.   Just an observation. J

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:36:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..nor does it inc a leGitimate 'hermaneutic' (thus far)..the correlation to you

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread ttxpress
 ..nor does it inc a leGitimate 'hermaneutic' (thus far)..the correlation to your point, below, Pastor, seems like 'beauty in the eye...'      On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:03:38 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || 1) Filled with His Spirit2) Walk in His Spir

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:30 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2   In a message dated 1/13/2005 8:44:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
Hehehe... Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 19.45 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 I don't know about Messi's being the only real

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
that Messi's are the only real Christians, right???!! :) K. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 14.19 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Kay wrot

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 8:44:31 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: âOne who is truly in (the real) Christ.â  (Not a member of a church.) How do we know if we are truly in the real Chist? Off the top of my head I will say we are:   1) Filled with His Spirit 2) Wal

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:23:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Slade Henson wrote: How many wives do you have, Dave? DAVEH:  Just one, Kay. But not because JSmith said so, right DaveH? Izzy I don't think Dave or his lovely ever met Smith.   Was it a temple weddi

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
Very interesting this talk of plural wives    Any member of the "Utah" Mormons would be EX'ed if it was public knowledge or he publicly spoke of multiple wives in this life. Of course you can be sealed to more than one in the Temple. In the afterlife you can have a harem full.   http://scriptures.l

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 1:38 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2   Slade Henson wrote: How many wives do you have, Dave? DAVEH:  Just one

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
But when I have trouble getting a definition from a Christian (present company excluded, of course!) of Christian, it kinda makes me wonder why the reticence?  And that's just a simple question.    DaveH, since you have defined a mormon, I will give my definition of a Christian.  “One wh

RE: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
Hehehe...   Reported or alleged to is very different than a definitive or a resounding YES, he did/does have three wives.   Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave HansenSent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 09.55To: TruthTa

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Dave Hansen
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 02.38 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Slade Henson wrote: How many wives do you have, Dave?

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread David Miller
Dave Hansen wrote: > Perry mentioned that it was referring to judges > who judge in behalf of God (I hope I've got that > right, Perry). But if that were the case, I don't > understand why Jesus would refer to theos > (Jn 10:34&35), suggesting a deity to be worshiped, > to be used in his defense.

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
Oh, man...that answer was a disappointment. I thought for SURE you'd have a harem or something. Only ONE? I thought you guys were supposed to try to keep up with Solomon! Do you know any Mormons who have more than one wife?     Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote:       DAVEH:  Yeah, but with a little forethought, there could have been one more (Mormon boy) feasting with you that day.  After all, I bet 16 would fit much more evenly around your table than 15.  Think about that the next time you through DAVE

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
Sent: Wednesday, 12 January, 2005 10.32 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2       DAVEH:  Yeah, but with a little forethought, there could have been one more (Mormon boy) feasting with you that day.  After all, I bet 16

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:   My current comments are in RED. Slade Henson wrote: Woops...I just noticed this post. I seem to miss posts on a regular basis.I'll go to this shade of purple: Slade Henson wrote: Scripture is very clear there are other gods, I

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/12/2005 4:56:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  I wish I could think of stuff like that, JD.  Nice to see Izzy get a jab in the ribs now and then.  I'm too timid to tickle the whiskers of that sleeping cat   :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/12/2005 4:56:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How sad John, "Unto the pure all things are pure, but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works th

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Slade Henson
Woops...I just noticed this post. I seem to miss posts on a regular basis.I'll go to this shade of purple: -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave HansenSent: Monday, 10 January, 2005 10.16To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSu

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 1:56:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I do not glibbly accept Dave as a Christian  --  it is based upon his answer to a question I asked about Christ.   In word (script), he expressed my faith.   JD A matter of grave concern for the discerning

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 1:56:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A matter of grave concern for the discerning. Izzy And you suppose this includes you  ???

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Slade Henson
hTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2      DAVEH:  Yeah, but with a little forethought, there could have been one more (Mormon boy) feasting with you that day.  After all, I bet 16 would fit much more evenly around your table than 15.  Think about that the next time you th

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
      DAVEH:  Yeah, but with a little forethought, there could have been one more (Mormon boy) feasting with you that day.  After all, I bet 16 would fit much more evenly around your table than 15.  Think about that the next time you through a party!   8-)   Dave, feel free to join us

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote:   ShieldsFamily wrote:   Izzy in red:    JD, while some of us judge doctrine, your words seem to judge people on TT .  I find no manner of rudeness written towards, DaveH, and I’m sure he will attest that he feels quite among friends on TT.  Izz

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
Kevin Deegan wrote: Dave, Have we established that unless I join the LDS Church I can not be saved? DAVEH:  Not in my opinion.  I believe there are a lot of non-LDS folks who will be saved.  (And many LDS folks who will not be saved.) Or am I taking these quotes out of context?

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Yellow brick rd

2005-01-12 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH:  FOLLOW THE PROPHETsounds like good advice to me, Kevin.  If a prophet conveys the word (Dt 18:18 & Amos 3:7) of the Lord to his people, should he not be followed as the Hebrews followed Moses?  I'd say the problems start cropping up when the prophets aren't followed.just loo

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
  ShieldsFamily wrote:   Izzy in red:    JD, while some of us judge doctrine, your words seem to judge people on TT .  I find no manner of rudeness written towards, DaveH, and I’m sure he will attest that he feels quite among friends on TT.  Izzy DAVEH:  Though I suspect I do have ma

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Yellow brick rd

2005-01-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Just imagine if you were raised up in a all LDS culture. You have been told that the prophet speaks as God since as far back, as you can remember. For instance, while you may have sung "Jesus Loves me" LDS chilgren learn songs such as "Follow the Prophet"   Here is part of that song:   Now we have

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: I wish I could think of stuff like that, JD. Nice to see Izzy get a jab in the ribs now and then. I'm too timid to tickle the whiskers of that sleeping cat :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/11/2005 9:25:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote:   Izzy in red:    JD, while some of us judge doctrine, your words seem to judge people on TT .  I find no manner of rudeness written towards, DaveH, and I’m sure he will attest that he feels quite among friends on TT.  Izzy DAVEH:  Though I suspect

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Judy Taylor
How sad John, "Unto the pure all things are pure, but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate" (T

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perry wrote: A mormon prooftext. Claim that men become gods, then find some scripture that seems to support it. This type of activity occurs in Mormonism because the LDS regard the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and covenants to be the prime documents in

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/10/2005 10:07:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, some of the brethren at Corinth, perhaps, believed in more than one god but served only one  -    someone might try reading I Cor 8. DAVEH:  Vs 6... But to us there is but one Go

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 9:25:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This IS a discussion group, not an agreement farm  !! John Looks more like a funny farm to meâIz That might change when you retire. JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Bill Taylor
  - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 DAVEH:   Like most words, there is more than one definition of Christian.  Some (such as

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 11:19:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am not aware of any pure Christian sect. I am not aware of any pure Christians.  JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Jeff Powers
:) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 21:04 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 In a message dated 1/11/2005 4:43:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 4:43:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeff Powers wrote: >Terry, >I'll give ya that one, but remember paybacks are coming! >Jeff > > > > >>My mistake Jeff.  I did not realize that you were a slow learner.  >>Sorry. >>Terry >>

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 8:28:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:    He asked for people's def

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 7:47:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think when Parry used the term "Smithism," he was referring to the doctrines of Joseph Smith, not John Smithson.  :-) Yes -- you are correct, Sir  !!   I have taken care of that..my mistake.   I ten

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Terry Clifton
Thank you for the temporary mercy. :-) Terry Jeff Powers wrote: Terry, I'll give ya that one, but remember paybacks are coming! Jeff My mistake Jeff. I did not realize that you were a slow learner. Sorry. Terry -

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Jeff Powers
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 14:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 My mistake Jeff. I did not realize that you were a slow learner. Sorry. Terry Jef

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Clifton Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:12 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2   David Miller wrote: I am not aware of any pure Christian sect. Peace be with

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Terry Clifton
David Miller wrote: I am not aware of any pure Christian sect. Peace be with you. David Miller. === I am planning on starting one as soon as I can find time.  Keep those love offerings pouring in.  We need a building fund ( and a yacht). Terry

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Terry Clifton
My mistake Jeff. I did not realize that you were a slow learner. Sorry. Terry Jeff Powers wrote: Wrong Terry, I have had the pleasure of dealing with Mormans for many, many years. Also a few

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
ubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Kay wrote: > Geez, we went from dangerous to > evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy > we just may eat Pentecostals for snacks! :) I hope you did not perceive me to be calling Messianics dangerous. My position is that the Messianic move

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread David Miller
Kay wrote: > Geez, we went from dangerous to > evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy > we just may eat Pentecostals for snacks! :) I hope you did not perceive me to be calling Messianics dangerous. My position is that the Messianic movement is of God, but there are some within

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
Yes, I know. As am Iwe would not eat Pentecostals for snacksUNCLEAN! UNCLEAN! Sorry, but Pentecostals just aren't koshernot for food consumption anyhow!   Kay -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 10:43:09 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Geez, we went from dangerous to evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy we just may eat Pentecostals for snacks! :) AND, as Pentecostal so often do,  we will be raised to fight another day. 

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
I do not glibbly accept Dave as a Christian  --  it is based upon his answer to a question I asked about Christ.   In word (script), he expressed my faith.   JD A matter of grave concern for the discerning. Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
Benny HindEnd...too funny. I don't think the Jews of the first church called themselves Christians. I believe they called themselves...Derechimfollowers of the way.     Geez, we went from dangerous to evlBetter watch it, Johnny-Boy we just may eat Pentecostals fo

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 OK OK What do you think? If I accept DAVEH as a Christian do you think he would accept me as a Mormon? The fat man is smilen once again?  (that would be me)

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:19:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So then what is your purpose in looking "to" the heart? How is looking to the heart accomplished?   The scripture does not say you can look to the heart as long as you judge not. It says men look on the ou

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/11/2005 5:13:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK OK What do you think? If I accept DAVEH as a Christian do you think he would accept me as a Mormon? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/10/2005 11:51:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PR

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
uesday, 11 January, 2005 12.58To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 He’s had it before. Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade HensonSent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:22 AMTo:

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
He’s had it before. Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:22 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2   He asked for people's definition of Christian. I

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
nuary, 2005 11.03To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 Kay, in the past nine years this has been explained to DaveH “ad nauseum”.  It’s a ploy.  Why don’t YOU try to get through to him? Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2   He didn't ask what a Christian is NOT, he asked what the definition for Christian IS. He didn't ask about Joseph Smith and his alleged activities or ideas are/were.   Kay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Powers Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:42 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2   Wrong Terry, I have had the pleasure of dealing with Mormans for many, many years. Also a few Jehovah's Witnesses! In fact my

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread David Miller
John signed off: > John -- Founder and Happy host to the > Theology known as Smithism. > Thanks Pairy I think when Parry used the term "Smithism," he was referring to the doctrines of Joseph Smith, not John Smithson. :-) Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be alw

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Slade Henson
FamilySent: Tuesday, 11 January, 2005 10.32To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2 DaveH, You are simply straining at gnats to avoid the obvious.  Here’s what is Christian IS NOT: a believer in multiple-gods, or that Jesus is just another one of us

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
Dave, Have we established that unless I join the LDS Church I can not be saved? Or am I taking these quotes out of context? I do not: exclude by definition exclude by creed ad nauseam For more of this Nauseam read Stephen Robinson's book --- Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Kevi

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
  Izzy in red:    JD, while some of us judge doctrine, your words seem to judge people on TT .  I find no manner of rudeness written towards, DaveH, and I’m sure he will attest that he feels quite among friends on TT.  Izzy DAVEH:  Though I suspect I do have many friends on TT, I failed

RE: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2

2005-01-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
mormonism’s false claims to Christianity.  Izzy   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Hansen Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 1:06 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Related #2   ShieldsFamily wrote: Several on this list

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