RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
ShieldsFamily wrote: Slade, I agree that DaveH is a kindly person of exemplary manners—his words are always loving.  However, is it loving to try to evangelize others to a damning religion? DAVEH:  Are you serious..Do you really believe I'm evangelizing on TT, Izzy?   Yes, if

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-15 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote: Slade, I agree that DaveH is a kindly person of exemplary manners—his words are always loving.  However, is it loving to try to evangelize others to a damning religion? DAVEH:  Are you serious..Do you really believe I'm evangelizing on TT, Izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-15 Thread ShieldsFamily
Slade, I agree that DaveH is a kindly person of exemplary manners—his words are always loving.  However, is it loving to try to evangelize others to a damning religion? DAVEH:  Are you serious..Do you really believe I'm evangelizing on TT, Izzy?   Yes, if the opportunity arises—w

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote: Slade, I agree that DaveH is a kindly person of exemplary manners—his words are always loving.  However, is it loving to try to evangelize others to a damning religion? I think not. Izzy You pretend that your reality is Dave's and then you draw

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-14 Thread Dave Hansen
ShieldsFamily wrote:   I will say this, however. I appreciate the love Dave H has. His love far exceeds ANY one else. If there is one thing you can learn from this man, it is love. I have no desire whatsoever to join the Mormon Church and I know Dave H has no desire

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Then John you have your own private interpretation so that what God says about it makes no difference to you...  At least this is the way it appears to me.  His word clearly says  SIN IS LAWLESSNESS - and it also says that no prophecy of scripture is for private interpretation.  1 John 3:4 i

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 10:29:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jd: Judy, you really do not have a clue as to "the practice of lawlessness."   Your use of the phrase "This is sin" forces this conclusion.   jt: Just agreeing with God's Word John ie: "Everyone who practi

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:21:01 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My turn now John .. Don't want to burst your bubble but it isn't up to God who gets in and who doesn't .. because God has given all judgment in heaven and on earth over to Jesus, so he is the one who has the say so and we

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:13:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, is it loving to try to evangelize others to a damning religion? I think not. How do you figure? I do not pretend that my reality is Daveâs You can't see this?   Really?  Whose reality is it when yo

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:14:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My turn now John .. Don't want to burst your bubble but it isn't up to God who gets in and who doesn't .. because God has given all judgment in heaven and on earth over to Jesus, so he is the one who has the s

RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
Yes, Judy...makes it FULLER. For instance...you have heard...do not commit adultery. But I'm telling you if you even look upon a woman with lust in your heart...you've done it. You have heard...do not murder. But I tell you that if you even hate your brother, you have murdered. If we were co

RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
Yea, not to add to or take awayseems to me you read the book form the beginning. You don't start 2/3 of the way through, otherwise you don't get the whole story. Comprehension could be lacking if we begin at the last 1/3. Build the foundation up from the beginning, realize the penalty fo

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Terry Clifton
Slade Henson wrote: I've got a question, then. First of all, I'm not too awful bright...so bear with me. Let's seeyou who practice lawlessness. Lawlessnesswithout law, or, in other words, sin. Without lawh...gimme a bit to think. Adding or taking away from the Word of

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
Terry says:  In more than one place in God's word, we are warned not to add to or take from God's word.  The punishment is having your name removed from the book of life if I remember correctly.  Would you consider the BOM to be adding to God's word?  If so, are Mormons saved? CMON Terry You Know B

RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
thTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise       My turn now John .. Don't want to burst your bubble but it isn't up to God who gets in and who doesn't .. because God has given all judgment in heaven and

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 9:42:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1.  Jack tells him:  You need to Repent!  The kingdom of God is forbidden to you except you repent.  Stop your sinning, and get right with God. 2.  Sam tells him:  No worries, my good friend.  You are alrig

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:40:05 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allow me to chim in here.    Salvation is not a legal issue. Not any more.   Do you presently claim to be doctrinally correct about every biblical issue?  Is there a chance, perhaps a good chance that you will change your mind abo

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 1:30:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks like the men of Nineveh pleased God by Believing This belief produced outward fruit when they proclaimed a fast Jonah 3:5 &repenting in sackloth &ashes Jonah 3:6 Perry:  Two things  --  your p

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 2:42:56 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: = In more than one place in God's word, we are warned not to add to or take from God's word.  The punishment is having your name removed from the book of life if I r

RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Slade, I agree that DaveH is a kindly person of exemplary manners—his words are always loving.  However, is it loving to try to evangelize others to a damning religion? I think not. Izzy You pretend that your reality is Dave's and then you draw your conclusion.  Izzy believes thus and

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/13/2005 2:54:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I read you correctly, you're asking "Does God allow people to worship him differently than the Jewish?" And the answer ifs Yes. One of my professors sees the Je

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
John says: Would God's tolerance of other religions , alla Ninevah     God did not TOLERATE Nineveh he laid it waste details in the Bible; Read it. Nahum 2:8,3:7 I think the interesting thing is God sends a preacher to one of Israels greatest enemies Asyria. No wonder Jonah was not keen on the idea

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 7:27:55 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Slade, I agree that DaveH is a kindly person of exemplary mannersâhis words are always loving.  However, is it loving to try to evangelize others to a damning religion? I think not. Izzy You pretend that

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 1/13/2005 2:54:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I read you correctly, you're asking "Does God allow people to worship him differently than the Jewish?" And the answer ifs Yes. One of my professors sees the Jerusalem Council in Acts as permission to den

RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
Amen, David, amen. Izzy -Original Message- Now which of these two people, given the facts established, should be considered to be the most loving? I think it would be Jack. Proverbs 27:5-6 (5) Open rebuke is better than secret love. (6) Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kis

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread David Miller
Izzy wrote: > I agree that DaveH is a kindly person of exemplary > manners-his words are always loving. However, > is it loving to try to evangelize others to a damning > religion? I think not. We do have to be careful how we interpret love. I'm sure Jesus did not appear to be loving the times

RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread ShieldsFamily
  I will say this, however. I appreciate the love Dave H has. His love far exceeds ANY one else. If there is one thing you can learn from this man, it is love. I have no desire whatsoever to join the Mormon Church and I know Dave H has no desire to become Messianic. Since we two are

RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-13 Thread Slade Henson
tic, there are, then, other avenues to explore and discuss together.   -- slade   -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, 13 January, 2005 00.03To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Role o

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-12 Thread Knpraise
upon.   I think it shows the Grace of G-d... even the heathen is given an opportunity to change their heart. -- slade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 12 January, 2005 16.55 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise Re:    Ninevites nat

RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-12 Thread Slade Henson
] Role of Law - of God or otherwise   Jonah 3:4-5 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. So the people of Nineveh believed God Slade Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So

RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
  Jonah 3:4-5 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. So the people of Nineveh believed God Slade Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Somehow their tendency to flay the skin off prisoners is not a rite that God

RE: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-12 Thread Slade Henson
Somehow their tendency to flay the skin off prisoners is not a rite that God would smile upon.   I think it shows the Grace of G-d... even the heathen is given an opportunity to change their heart. -- slade -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, 12 January,

Re: [TruthTalk] Role of Law - of God or otherwise

2005-01-12 Thread Knpraise
   Re:    Ninevites nation and the rule of God in their culture. Observation:   Apparently there was something existent in their going ons, at the time of Joanh, that established some degree of connectivity between these pagans and the God of the Jews (who would also be the God of us all, of co