[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-13 Thread Bob in Jersey
Karla Robinson, to Sir Tom: > And have you seen the beta versions of their O&O webpage > redesigns? They don't have any local news personality > pictures on them at all They'll be on this page (or similar on other site): www.nbcwashington.com/station/newsteam -- BOB ___

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-12 Thread Bob in Jersey
Sir Tom, to Ed Dravecky: > Olympics 2010: Watch Micheal Phelps run track & field. London, 2012. -- BOB Visa, MasterCard, AMEX & Discover. Compare Offers & Apply Online. Click here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-12 Thread Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire
M-D November wrote: > Also a summer event. You're thinking of BIathalon > (ski...shoot...ski...shoot...) Tom's knowledge of sports rivals his knowledge of heterosexual NYC strip clubs. But I did have Claudine Longet's album back at the college radio station. --~--~-~--~~---

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2008-12-12 Thread Tom Wolper
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:33 PM, M-D November wrote: > > Also a summer event. You're thinking of Biathlon > (ski...shoot...ski...shoot...) And you're thinking of the governor of Alaska. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because

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2008-12-12 Thread M-D November
Also a summer event. You're thinking of BIathalon (ski...shoot...ski...shoot...) On Dec 12, 2:07 pm, "Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire" wrote: > M-D November wrote: > > 2010 is the winter games, so you can watch Michael Phelps figure and/ > > or speed skate instead. > > Triathalon... --~--~-~

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2008-12-12 Thread scruffy
On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:21 PM, Bob in Jersey wrote: > > > scruffy, to Karla: >> seems like just yesterday we were being told that no one >> watched live tv at 10 because they were too busy watching >> programs they recorded earlier in the night. > > YACS... http://snurl.com/7ritg which the NUTS s

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-12 Thread Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire
M-D November wrote: > 2010 is the winter games, so you can watch Michael Phelps figure and/ > or speed skate instead. Triathalon... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV"

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2008-12-12 Thread M-D November
2010 is the winter games, so you can watch Michael Phelps figure and/ or speed skate instead. On Dec 12, 8:34 am, "Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire" wrote: > Olympics 2010: Watch Micheal Phelps run track & field. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You receive

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-12 Thread Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire
Ed Dravecky wrote: > Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire wrote: >> He doesn't have to, said Marc Graboff, co-chairman of NBC Entertainment. >> "We are not trying to compete," Mr. Graboff said. > > That's the kind of forward-thinking, go-getter attitude that has NBC > placing 5th behind a Spanish-languag

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-12 Thread Ed Dravecky
Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire wrote: > He doesn't have to, said Marc Graboff, co-chairman of NBC Entertainment. > "We are not trying to compete," Mr. Graboff said. That's the kind of forward-thinking, go-getter attitude that has NBC placing 5th behind a Spanish-language network some weeks. They s

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-10 Thread Bob in Jersey
scruffy, to Karla: > seems like just yesterday we were being told that no one > watched live tv at 10 because they were too busy watching > programs they recorded earlier in the night. YACS... http://snurl.com/7ritg -- BOB Visa

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2008-12-10 Thread Gary
I think the first half hour of the Tonight Show might possibly survive in prime time... but the second half hour with the second guest and musical act? That will die a horrible death in prime time. And that’s going to be the lead-in to the 11pm local news! There’ll be an affiliate revolt! Gary -

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-10 Thread scruffy
On Dec 9, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Karla Robinson wrote: > Also up on msnbc.com, at this url: > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#28148993 > > the execs are touting it as "dvr-proof". H. seems like just yesterday we were being told that no one watched live tv at 10 because they were too busy

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-10 Thread Joe Hass
What's to stop an affiliate from moving their local news to 10:00 pm ET and running Leno and O'Brien and Fallon back-to-back-to-back? If I were an NBC affiliate GM, I'd be thinking that if the network is effectively conceding 10, why not move my local news up there? And wouldn't that be the ultim

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread PGage
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Kevin M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, NBC is going with a show they know won't achieve high ratings > (affiliate heads will love that, by the way), and the show won't earn > them DVD revenues. And, by playing this time-shifting game, they've > potentially muddie

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread Kevin M.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 9:09 PM, PGage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure about that - after all, Leno made the same point himself > on Countdown. They are not competing with other 10:00 shows, they are > trying to earn more money than it costs to make the show. As far as > local news is co

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread Karla Robinson
Monsieur Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire, said: Instead, NBC, which has been increasingly uncompetitive at 10 o'clock, will concentrate on developing more competitive programming for the two hours that will provide Mr. Leno's lead-in. And every 11 p.m. newscast loves that! Karla replied: And ha

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread PGage
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Kevin M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "We are not trying to compete," Mr. Graboff said. > > There's an ego shot aimed at Leno. The exec is stating he is > intentionally b

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire
>> "We are not trying to compete," Mr. Graboff said. > > There's an ego shot aimed at Leno. The exec is stating he is > intentionally backing a losing horse. Words every stockholder will > love to read. They could have put him on at 8, the timeslot that gets the worst ratings. (Why "Big Brother

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread Kevin M.
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "We are not trying to compete," Mr. Graboff said. There's an ego shot aimed at Leno. The exec is stating he is intentionally backing a losing horse. Words every stockholder will love to read. -- Kevin M. (R

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire
About those 10 p.m. ratings ... money quote (TV Week): The host of “The Jay Leno Show” doesn’t expect to beat first-run versions of the scripted dramas it will compete with at 10 p.m. weeknights starting in fall 2009. He doesn’t have to, said Marc Graboff, co-chairman of NBC Entertainment. “

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread Karla Robinson
tvornottv@googlegroups.com Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC Leno guested on Countdown today... podcast available. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

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2008-12-09 Thread Kevin M.
Leno guested on Countdown today... podcast available. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@goo

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread Tom Wolper
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:56 PM, PGage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Data posted by AB today lead to the conclusion that NBC is averaging > 7.5 million viewers at the 10:00 hour (I had guestemated 7 million > last night). Leno would have to average around 5.5 million (5.64 > actually) to get to 7

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread PGage
Data posted by AB today lead to the conclusion that NBC is averaging 7.5 million viewers at the 10:00 hour (I had guestemated 7 million last night). Leno would have to average around 5.5 million (5.64 actually) to get to 75% of the current 10:00 pm viewership. I think that is reasonable (remember

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread Michael
On Dec 9, 12:18 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think NBC could do a lot worse than renting either the > Doolittle/Huntington Hartford/Ricardo Montalban or Henry Fonda > Theatres in Hollywood, going live, and emulating Steve Allen's show > and turning Leno and his guests loose on the tourist trad

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread M-D November
Ron - that's along the lines of the 'roadshow' idea I suggested earlier, although you might be on to something - Vegas has no shortage of celebrities, oddities & regular folk, and it's close enough to LA to make the trip shorter than, say, NY for guests. I'd be up for a live broadcast too, but it

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread M-D November
There's a theater named after Ricardo Montalban? (And if so, is his big plastic chestplate from "Wrath of Khan" on display in the lobby?) M-D KHAAAN! On Dec 9, 3:18 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That said, I think NBC could do a lot worse than renting either the > Doolittle/Huntingt

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2008-12-09 Thread Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire
> Also, as an additional differentiator, broadcast it live. LIVE is already on the menu. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email t

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2008-12-09 Thread Ron Casalotti
My suggestion for the new Leno show: base it in Las Vegas. It gives Leno a differentiation from the NY/LA scene; opens opportunities for celebrity guests not currently in NY/LA providing Conan with a bit of a buffer; provides plenty of 'average folk' for 'JayWalking'; allows Jay to do the occasion

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread Steve Timko
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:20 PM, PGage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Enemy gets around 4.2 million at 10:00 on Mondays, so Leno is already > coming close to that at 11:35. From what I can tell NBC is averaging > around 7 million at the 10:00 hour M-F. Can Leno average 5.25 mil for > the week? I

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread Karla Robinson
PGage said: Enemy gets around 4.2 million at 10:00 on Mondays, so Leno is already coming close to that at 11:35. From what I can tell NBC is averaging around 7 million at the 10:00 hour M-F. Can Leno average 5.25 mil for the week? If a 10:00 Leno program costs less than 2/3 of a one hour drama, a

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread dsikula
On Dec 8, 9:40 pm, PGage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Logistically, this is a mess. A new theater in Universal City is being > > built specifically for Conan, but Jay's studio is being demolished in > > a few months. Will Jay move to New York, or will he stay in LA (in a > > less lavish studio)

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire
PGage wrote: > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Tom Wolper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ratings expectations are vastly different for prime time and late >> night. Leno's been getting 3.5-4 million viewers a night and that's >> fatal in prime time. Leno competes well against Letterman and >> Nigh

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-09 Thread PGage
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:20 PM, PGage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Tom Wolper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ratings expectations are vastly different for prime time and late >> night. Leno's been getting 3.5-4 million viewers a night and that's >> fatal in prime t

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-08 Thread PGage
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Tom Wolper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ratings expectations are vastly different for prime time and late > night. Leno's been getting 3.5-4 million viewers a night and that's > fatal in prime time. Leno competes well against Letterman and > Nightline, but that's n

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-08 Thread Tom Wolper
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:24 AM, PGage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course, if Leno just does his godawful version of the Tonight Show > at 10:00 and calls it the Primetime Show or the Evening Show or > something, then I wouldn't blame Conan for being pissed. Some notes until I form a more co

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-08 Thread PGage
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Karla Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As I said earlier, I thought a news magazine would do well with this type of > schedule. If Leno changed up his show a bit, and allowed for a "Politically > Incorrect"-type of panel discussion segment or something, thi

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-08 Thread Karla Robinson
As I said earlier, I thought a news magazine would do well with this type of schedule. If Leno changed up his show a bit, and allowed for a "Politically Incorrect"-type of panel discussion segment or something, this could work well. During the elections, Leno could have made a killing by staying

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-08 Thread PGage
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Kevin M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it cuts Conan off at the knees. He still follows Leno, > al-be-it with a 35 minute news break in between (so much for the > seamless transitions between shows NBC and the other networks have > been attempting). What is c

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-08 Thread M-D November
On Dec 8, 9:49 pm, "Karla Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come to think of it, there's a similar situation over at Comedy Central, > what with Colbert directly following Stewart.  They seem to coordinate very > well.  The key difference, of course, is the fact that both Conan and Leno > ar

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-08 Thread Jon Delfin
At 08:08 PM 12/8/2008, you wrote: >According to TV Week, NBC has signed Leno to host a one hour, Monday >through Friday prime time show starting in 2009. It will be announced tomorrow. > >http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/12/nbc_

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2008-12-08 Thread Karla Robinson
to see if there's an out KR -Original Message- From: tvornottv@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin M. Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 9:38 PM To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Ka

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2008-12-08 Thread Kevin M.
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Karla Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For years, I've expected a network to go with a newsmagazine for five nights > a week. This is a bit surprising. I wonder how Conan feels about this…. I think it cuts Conan off at the knees. He still follows Leno, al-be

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-08 Thread Karla Robinson
For years, I've expected a network to go with a newsmagazine for five nights a week. This is a bit surprising. I wonder how Conan feels about this.. KR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ Like TV only smarter. You received this message because you are subscribed to the

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2008-12-08 Thread Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire
> I'm sure that there's five hours of NBC per week that nobody will > miss, but I can't imagine ABC or CBS being able to do that easily. Well, ABC just dumped 3 (Daisy, Sexy, Eli). Toss in Jim, SuperNanny, Wifeswap, AFV, The Bachelor/ette, an hour of Dancing clips, and everyone who seems to car

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-08 Thread David Lynch
The NY Times is reporting the same thing now. I'm sure that there's five hours of NBC per week that nobody will miss, but I can't imagine ABC or CBS being able to do that easily. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 19:38, Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kevin M. wrote: >> Wow. The

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-08 Thread Thomas Allen Heald, Esquire
Kevin M. wrote: > Wow. The solution is both elegant and stupid. > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Bradford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> According to TV Week, NBC has signed Leno to host a one hour, Monday >> through Friday prime time show starting in 2009. It will be announced >> tomorrow. So

[TV orNotTV] Re: Leno to stay at NBC

2008-12-08 Thread Kevin M.
Wow. The solution is both elegant and stupid. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Bradford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to TV Week, NBC has signed Leno to host a one hour, Monday > through Friday prime time show starting in 2009. It will be announced > tomorrow. > > http://www.tvweek.com/ne