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2009-06-18 Thread PGage
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Karla Robinson < karlasrobin...@zoominternet.net> wrote: >Saying offensive things about young kids is never classy—I don’t care > if the kid has been pimped out by their parents to trumpet family values or > whatever. It’s just not cool. It doesn’t lessen Dav

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2009-06-18 Thread Karla Robinson
I know I'm late to the party on this one ( I was out of town during this entire brouhaha ), but I want to chime in with two things: 1.I so agree with Wesley: you never lose by being more magnanimous, especially in television. Television is an intimate medium in many respects, and wh

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2009-06-16 Thread Donz5
On Jun 16, 7:58 pm, David Bruggeman wrote: > Did they get within range of the Late Show water cannon? > > David No; the "rally" was across the street. > > > From: Wesley McGee > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > > About 50 people turn

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2009-06-16 Thread Donz5
On Jun 16, 7:38 pm, Wesley McGee wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > > > About 50 people turn up for the Fire Dave rally: > > >http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/16/2009-06-16_fire_dave_crowd... > > > 50 people... after the worldwide coverage they've gotten? (A

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2009-06-16 Thread Donz5
On Jun 16, 8:16 pm, Wesley McGee wrote: > With video -- and a wacky "5 minutes later" transition gag. > > http://gawker.com/5293162/david-lettermans-job-is-probably-safe NY Magazine has a classic on its site: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/06/video_rabid_letterman_protesto.htmlv --~--~-

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2009-06-16 Thread Wesley McGee
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2009-06-16 Thread Wesley McGee
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Kevin M. wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Wesley McGee > wrote: > > With video -- and a wacky "5 minutes later" transition gag. > > > > http://gawker.com/5293162/david-lettermans-job-is-probably-safe > > The protest is moot at this point. They achieved

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2009-06-16 Thread Kevin M.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Wesley McGee wrote: > With video -- and a wacky "5 minutes later" transition gag. > > http://gawker.com/5293162/david-lettermans-job-is-probably-safe The protest is moot at this point. They achieved what they wanted to without a protest. And after Letterman caved

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2009-06-16 Thread Wesley McGee
With video -- and a wacky "5 minutes later" transition gag. http://gawker.com/5293162/david-lettermans-job-is-probably-safe --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "

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2009-06-16 Thread David Bruggeman
Did they get within range of the Late Show water cannon? David From: Wesley McGee On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Sue Trowbridge wrote: About 50 people turn up for the Fire Dave rally: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/16/2009-06-16_fire_dave_crow

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2009-06-16 Thread Wesley McGee
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > > About 50 people turn up for the Fire Dave rally: > > http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/16/2009-06-16_fire_dave_crowd_lines_up_to_protest_lettermans_palin_joke.html > > 50 people... after the worldwide coverage they've gotten? (A Goo

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2009-06-16 Thread doug
"tempted to inform them"?  I've actually done that, several times over the years.  I know it doesn't change anything, but it's my little push back against the tide.   Doug Fields Tampa, FL   Original Message --------Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re: You Knew This Was

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2009-06-16 Thread Sue Trowbridge
About 50 people turn up for the Fire Dave rally: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/06/16/2009-06-16_fire_dave_crowd_lines_up_to_protest_lettermans_palin_joke.html 50 people... after the worldwide coverage they've gotten? (A Google news search for "fire dave rally" yields over 1,000 hits.) Stic

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2009-06-16 Thread Tom Wolper
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:58 AM, PGage wrote: > > I would love to hear sometime the inside story on Dave's decision to make > the actual apology last night. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that it was > not a case of some CBS suit or PR flack ordering or begging Dave to do it, > but Dave himself

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2009-06-16 Thread Joe Hass
To back up what both Wesley and PGage have said: * This is highly abnormal for Letterman to do, which adds a significant amount of depth to it. Letterman tends not to yield to the suits (if at all). * The scenario in which the LSWDL staff did not know which daughter was at the ballpark is a plaus

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2009-06-16 Thread Donz5
The pathetic thing is -- there's no evidence presented thus far that the 14-year-old was actually _at_ the game. Every contemporary article and photo gallery states and shows only the Palin and Giuliani spouses. No mention or sight whatsoever of Willow. Nothing. The kid was with the mom and dad t

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2009-06-16 Thread David Lynch
Every time I hear about a big company giving in to a threatened boycott as the result of manufactured outrage against the TV/radio show they advertise on, I'm tempted to inform them that I will not be giving them my money until they start advertising on it again. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 22:22, We

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2009-06-16 Thread PGage
...and, now, in her equally classy and wise way, the Governor has graciously accepted the apology: ** http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090616/ap_en_tv/us_tv_letterman_palin NEW YORK – Sarah Palin says she accepts David Letterman's apology for the joke about her daughter. The

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2009-06-16 Thread Wrecks
It seems to have taught everyone a lesson. "Go ahead and put yourself and your family out there, and then if you don't like what people say, use them to get yourself even more publicity." --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ TV or Not TV Smart (TV) People on Ice! You receive

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2009-06-16 Thread PGage
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:52 PM, pedegars wrote: > > But what do you do when you return to your normal life and they're > still coming after you? Even Monica Lewinsky is pretty much left > alone today, unless you count the occasional item in the Gawker Media > sites. > Since pedegars has ackno

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2009-06-16 Thread David Bruggeman
When is a sitting governor considered a private citizen? She might return to a normal life should she leave politics, but that won't happen before her current term expires - assuming she doesn't run for re-election next year. David From: pedegars Perhaps t

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2009-06-15 Thread pedegars
Perhaps this was the straw that broke the camel's back. There's also a difference in the timing; most, if not all, of the SNL stuff was during the 2008 campaign, when there's practically a federal law that says comedians have a free pass to say pretty much whatever they want, since their targets

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2009-06-15 Thread Wesley McGee
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 1:55 AM, pedegars wrote: > > > The same probably should go for when you're claiming to be offended. > Nobody > > on earth thought the joke was about Willow Palin (I barely realized that > a > > Willow Palin even existed before last week). > > So not true. After the last li

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2009-06-15 Thread pedegars
> The same probably should go for when you're claiming to be offended. Nobody > on earth thought the joke was about Willow Palin (I barely realized that a > Willow Palin even existed before last week). So not true. After the last little extended message thread on this brouhaha Friday/Saturday, th

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2009-06-15 Thread Wesley McGee
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:52 PM, Phil Collins wrote: > Like Dave said if you have to explain the joke, it's not a joke. Dave did > the right thing. Liberals never see wrong when a Conservative is wronged. The same probably should go for when you're claiming to be offended. Nobody on earth tho

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2009-06-15 Thread David Bruggeman
This was not the first joke about Governor Palin's brood getting knocked up, so the selection of this joke at this time suggests that the Governor's outrage is manufactured. What the hell was she doing when other late night comics or Saturday Night Live performers were making fun of how badly s

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2009-06-15 Thread Melissa Neal
On Jun 15, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > Letterman's apology was to appease the extreme right who worship Palin > as if she is the God she claims to believe in. It made me sick to my > stomach to see a comic bowing down and kissing their feet. I think a > lot less highly of Letterman toda

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2009-06-15 Thread Phil Collins
Like Dave said if you have to explain the joke, it's not a joke. Dave did the right thing. Liberals never see wrong when a Conservative is wronged. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Wesley McGee > wrote: > > You know, I was going to disagree

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2009-06-15 Thread Kevin M.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Wesley McGee wrote: > You know, I was going to disagree with Kevin here, as I felt that at the > least Dave owed Willow and Bristol the apology. As soon as Sarah Palin publicly apologizes to her children for using them as media tools, maybe I would begin to consid

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2009-06-15 Thread Wesley McGee
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2009-06-15 Thread Wesley McGee
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > > > > Letterman will offer a full apology on tonight's show: > > > http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2009/06/dave-i-take-full-responsibilty.php > > > > --Sue T. > > You know, I thought

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2009-06-15 Thread Donz5
On Jun 15, 7:36 pm, "Kevin M." wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > > > Letterman will offer a full apology on tonight's show: > >http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2009/06/dave-i-take-full-respon... > > > --Sue T. > > You know, I thought the extreme right wing had

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2009-06-15 Thread Kevin M.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > > Letterman will offer a full apology on tonight's show: > http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2009/06/dave-i-take-full-responsibilty.php > > --Sue T. You know, I thought the extreme right wing had been dethroned. Not only were they not i

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2009-06-15 Thread PGage
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Sue Trowbridge wrote: > > Letterman will offer a full apology on tonight's show: > > http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2009/06/dave-i-take-full-responsibilty.php > > --Sue T. Does that mean, in the war on white women, white women have finally won? Mission Ac

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2009-06-15 Thread Sue Trowbridge
Letterman will offer a full apology on tonight's show: http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/tvbizwire/2009/06/dave-i-take-full-responsibilty.php --Sue T. On Jun 15, 1:22 pm, Wesley McGee wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Mark J. wrote: > > > A "Fire David Letterman" rally is scheduled for tomor

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2009-06-15 Thread Wesley McGee
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Mark J. wrote: > > A "Fire David Letterman" rally is scheduled for tomorrow in front of > the Ed Sullivan Theater. . . > > http://firedavidletterman.com/ Twitter sized thought: Teabag protests. Comedy protests. When did conservatives become the 21s Century hip

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2009-06-15 Thread Wesley McGee
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Mark J.wrote: > > > > A "Fire David Letterman" rally is scheduled for tomorrow in front of > > the Ed Sullivan Theater about the time the audience for the night's > > show is in the process of lining up to get i

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2009-06-15 Thread Kevin M.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Mark J. wrote: > > A "Fire David Letterman" rally is scheduled for tomorrow in front of > the Ed Sullivan Theater about the time the audience for the night's > show is in the process of lining up to get in--the organizers are NY > State Assembly Minority Leader Br