Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update

2007-09-07 Thread STONE COLD
:33:58 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update> > > On Fri, > 2007-09-07 at 10:31 +, STONE COLD wrote:> > ok so ill try and update the > bios! see if that brings any joy> > Don't just do it for the sake of it > though. Have a look on the> manufacturer

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update

2007-09-07 Thread Darren Mansell
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 10:31 +, STONE COLD wrote: > ok so ill try and update the bios! see if that brings any joy Don't just do it for the sake of it though. Have a look on the manufacturers site, see if they have published a later version of the BIOS than you have then upgrade if it says abou

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update

2007-09-07 Thread STONE COLD
I see what you mean... ok so ill try and update the bios! see if that brings any joy > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep > 2007 11:23:43 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update> > > On Fri, > 2007-09-07 at 09:59 +000

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update

2007-09-07 Thread Alan Pope
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 09:59 +, STONE COLD wrote: > How do you know my motherboard isnt new?lol > You said it was new. But motherboards aren't made and then shipped directly to your house from the plant in Taiwan! They sit in a warehouse, then get shipped to a distributor, then to the retail

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update

2007-09-07 Thread STONE COLD
Ive never flashed my motherboard before im scared il fry it lol > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep > 2007 11:05:06 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update> > > On Fri, > 2007-09-07 at 09:59 +, STONE COLD w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update

2007-09-07 Thread Darren Mansell
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 09:59 +, STONE COLD wrote: > How do you know my motherboard isnt new?lol > > Actually it did come with a disc to update the bios from the > supplier...but that was in windows! All the problems get discovered with firmware/BIOS' when they are first released. Generally a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update

2007-09-07 Thread STONE COLD
How do you know my motherboard isnt new?lol Actually it did come with a disc to update the bios from the supplier...but that was in windows! > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep > 2007 10:41:25 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] C

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update

2007-09-07 Thread Alan Pope
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 08:20 +, STONE COLD wrote: > didnt think i needed any..its a new motherboard so!!! > Hahaha, don't you believe it! Example. My brand new Toshiba laptop run at around half the speed that it _should_ under Linux. I benchmarked it and it was truly awful. Looking on th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update

2007-09-07 Thread STONE COLD
didnt think i needed any..its a new motherboard so!!! > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep > 2007 09:01:24 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update> > > On Fri, > 2007-09-07 at 07:33 +, STONE COLD wrote:> >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update

2007-09-07 Thread Darren Mansell
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 07:33 +, STONE COLD wrote: > > Ok i did the hand test i.e i touched the heatsink and it wasnt hot at > all..i could barely feel any warmth coming from there! > > By the way for those talking bout sensors When i type it into > terminal ..it gives me temps for both

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps-Update

2007-09-07 Thread STONE COLD
! > Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:04:04 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> > Alan Pope > wrote:> > Hi Rob,> > > > On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 18:33 +0100, Rob Beard wrote:> > >> Pete

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-06 Thread Rob Beard
Alan Pope wrote: > Hi Rob, > > On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 18:33 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: >> Pete Stean wrote: >>> hmm, I'm guessing here, but I would imagine one of those is *supposed* >>> to be CPU temp, the other is case temp - very unsual for them to be the >>> same, case temp is usually a couple d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-06 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Rob, On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 18:33 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: > Pete Stean wrote: > > hmm, I'm guessing here, but I would imagine one of those is *supposed* > > to be CPU temp, the other is case temp - very unsual for them to be the > > same, case temp is usually a couple degrees more. It looks li

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-06 Thread Rob Beard
Pete Stean wrote: > hmm, I'm guessing here, but I would imagine one of those is *supposed* > to be CPU temp, the other is case temp - very unsual for them to be the > same, case temp is usually a couple degrees more. It looks like it's > reading the same sensor twice?? For instance if I run 'sen

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-06 Thread STONE COLD
rote: i tried the sensors in terminalit gives me temps for both processors of CPU 1 30c-32cCPU 2 30c-32c so this is ok?reliable ? > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep > 2007 14:46:54 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-06 Thread STONE COLD
ok ...this is the next test il dohopefully il return with a full set of fingers :) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep > 2007 08:57:15 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> > > On Thu, > 2007-09-06 at 08:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-06 Thread Pete Stean
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:46:54 +0100 > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps > > > > > > On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 13:28 +, STONE COLD wrote: > > > and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-06 Thread Darren Mansell
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 08:54 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote: > > > > so this is ok?reliable ? > > Hard to say without some other way of checking the temperatures in > some > independent manner. Suggestions have been made! > Seriously. If its a desktop machine and you can touch the heatsink without f

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-06 Thread Tony Arnold
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 07:38 +, STONE COLD wrote: > i tried the sensors in terminalit gives me temps for both > processors of > > CPU 1 30c-32c > CPU 2 30c-32c > > so this is ok?reliable ? Hard to say without some other way of checking the temperatures in some independent manner. Sugges

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-06 Thread STONE COLD
i tried the sensors in terminalit gives me temps for both processors of CPU 1 30c-32c CPU 2 30c-32c so this is ok?reliable ? > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep > 2007 14:46:54 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> > &g

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Tony Arnold
Robert, On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 18:02 +0200, Robert Spanjaard wrote: > On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:28:53 +, STONE COLD wrote: > > > and thats what i mean...should i trust my ubuntu telling me its a nice > > 28c. > > It's possible. On my notebook, Ubuntu sometimes 'forgets' that the fan is > running

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Alan Pope
Hi, On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 19:57 +0100, MailingLists wrote: > The OS reading is the more correct, but be aware that 60'C is bit over > the recommended 50'C max temperature. If you do something CPU intense, > like re-encode video the temp. will rise to 60'C and if your harddrive > is nearby it wi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread MailingLists
STONE COLD wrote: > so does that mean ubuntu is telling me the right temp? > or should i believe my bios. > > Id be happy if it was ubuntu that was right :) This issue here is twofold... 1) The bios firmware basically just loops and effectively thrashes the processor hence the 60'C readings

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Matthew Larsen
> I also see dead people - scary it is.. (and how did you know I > wanted a beer?) > > Chris Programmers Intuition ;-) -- Matthew G Larsen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.or

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Robert Spanjaard
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:28:53 +, STONE COLD wrote: > and thats what i mean...should i trust my ubuntu telling me its a nice > 28c. It's possible. On my notebook, Ubuntu sometimes 'forgets' that the fan is running at full speed, so the CPU gets pretty cool when idle. I usually run glxgears or a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Chris Rowson
> With the exception of Chris Rowson of course. He can read minds > *thinks: wants a beer* > > Regards, > > -- > Matthew G Larsen I also see dead people - scary it is.. (and how did you know I wanted a beer?) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Tony Arnold
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 14:25 +, STONE COLD wrote: > sensors? thats it? > so open terminal and type sensors? > No sudo ? Just sensors! No sudo required. Try 'man sensors' (without the quotes) for more information. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manch

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Matthew Larsen
Hey stone, On 05/09/07, STONE COLD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sensors? thats it? > so open terminal and type sensors? > No sudo ? > > Sorry im new to Ubuntu :) > Welcome to the ubuntu world :-) However magical we are, we cannot read minds, so you have to phrase your questions a little bette

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Pete Stean
you'll want to look for the 'lmsensors' package if memory serves - can be a b*tch to setup though, I gave up on my rig - unfortunately it doesn't recognise all the possible combinations of temp sensors out there... Pete On 05/09/07, Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-09-05 a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread STONE COLD
sensors? thats it? so open terminal and type sensors? No sudo ? Sorry im new to Ubuntu :) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep > 2007 15:08:01 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> > On Wed, 2007-09-05 > at 13:53

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Chris Jones
Hi STONE COLD wrote: > so does that mean ubuntu is telling me the right temp? > or should i believe my bios. > > Id be happy if it was ubuntu that was right :) It's possible that both are right, but I'm not sure if you can trust either of them without a way of checking. Cheers, -- Chris J

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Tony Arnold
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 13:53 +, STONE COLD wrote: > whats that command please? sensors Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread STONE COLD
I think it will have to be the finger test then!!! > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep > 2007 14:46:54 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> > > On Wed, > 2007-09-05 at 13:28 +, STONE COLD wrote:> > and thats w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread STONE COLD
whats that command please? > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep > 2007 14:37:59 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> > Javad,> > On Wed, > 2007-09-05 at 11:31 +, STONE COLD wrote:> > i was using the IM > se

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread STONE COLD
yeh i think i did...lol So any good app that will tell me CPU temps? lol > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:37:53 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> > lol I think > you missed the joke :-)> > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Darren Mansell
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 13:28 +, STONE COLD wrote: > and thats what i mean...should i trust my ubuntu telling me its a nice > 28c. > > What can i install (tried and tested) in ubuntu that will accurately > tell me the CPU temp. Something that can sit in a toolbar and > constantly supply me wi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Matthew Larsen
that can sit in a toolbar and constantly supply me > with CPU temp info...anything? > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 14:21:19 +0100 > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > Subject: Re: [ubunt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Tony Arnold
Javad, On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 11:31 +, STONE COLD wrote: > i was using the IM sensors...but i also downloaded something from > Gdesklets and that was showing me the temps! You could run the sensors command from a terminal window. That will show the output from all known sensors. It maybe you

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread STONE COLD
:21:19 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> > >> > So if > ubuntu is running at full wouldnt that mean more temps? im showing> > more > temps in windows idle than i am in ubuntu idle!>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Matthew Larsen
> > So if ubuntu is running at full wouldnt that mean more temps? im showing > more temps in windows idle than i am in ubuntu idle! > It's windoze ... what do you expect? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread STONE COLD
So if ubuntu is running at full wouldnt that mean more temps? im showing more temps in windows idle than i am in ubuntu idle! Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:04:41 +0100From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps nothing like hands-on testing is there :) I would agree

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Pete Stean
nothing like hands-on testing is there :) I would agree that I would trust to the BIOS rather than anything else - it may be that in windows the cpu is being throttled correctly, whereas under Ubuntu it's ignoring the BIOS settings and running at full-tilt all the time, which is going to make a si

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Matthew Larsen
> Quick test - if you can touch the heatsink and leave your finger on > there for more than 5 seconds when the BIOS is saying 60degC then the > BIOS is incorrect. lol -- Matthew G Larsen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailma

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Darren Mansell
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 11:44 +, STONE COLD wrote: > Its not a small case it is quite big (for a media centre case)...but > even if 60c is accurate...why would ubuntu show me 28c on occasions > even less..when pc is idle...whereas in windows the temps show in the > 40s > > Im running an AMD At

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread STONE COLD
so does that mean ubuntu is telling me the right temp? or should i believe my bios. Id be happy if it was ubuntu that was right :) > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:43:30 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread STONE COLD
ntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep > 2007 12:37:51 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> > > On Wed, > 2007-09-05 at 11:34 +, STONE COLD wrote:> > 60C is only showing at > bios...but when im in ubuntu it tells me im> > running at 28-31c. > > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Chris Jones
Hi Tony Arnold wrote: > 28-31 seems low to me. Mine runs at about 44 or there abouts, but I fwiw, when idle and with a sensible CPU scheduler, my Core2Duo runs at 31 degrees. My guess is Matthew was right with guess 2 - I think the BIOS will know nothing of fancypants cooling, so will run the CP

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Darren Mansell
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 11:34 +, STONE COLD wrote: > 60C is only showing at bios...but when im in ubuntu it tells me im > running at 28-31c. > > Im using a media centre case ..it has two 80mm case fans and a third > fan which i cobbled in to pull more air out...which it does...because > my bi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread STONE COLD
, 5 Sep 2007 11:44:15 +0100From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps I would add that if the 60C is accurate then that is also rather high - what kind of cooling do you have in the case - fan sizes, positions etc? Are they in a push-pull configuration?? Pete On 05

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread STONE COLD
i was using the IM sensors...but i also downloaded something from Gdesklets and that was showing me the temps! > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep > 2007 11:31:36 +0100> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps> > On Wed, 2007-09-05 &g

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Pete Stean
I would add that if the 60C is accurate then that is also rather high - what kind of cooling do you have in the case - fan sizes, positions etc? Are they in a push-pull configuration?? Pete On 05/09/07, Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 10:16 +, STONE COLD wrot

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Tony Arnold
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 10:16 +, STONE COLD wrote: > Hi, > > Not a problem as such, just a general question. > > > Im running gutsy (previously Fiesty) and i noticed that CPU temps are > showing as 28C to 31 when im browsing the web ...however if if restart > my pc and log int o the bios,..

Re: [ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread Matthew Larsen
My guesses are 1) The BIOS is wrong 2) algorithms to bring down the temperature do not load until after the BIOS. 3) The algorithms to bring down the temperature are not in the BIOS 4) Your cooking fajitas Regards, On 05/09/07, STONE COLD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Not a problem as suc

[ubuntu-uk] CPU temps

2007-09-05 Thread STONE COLD
Hi, Not a problem as such, just a general question. Im running gutsy (previously Fiesty) and i noticed that CPU temps are showing as 28C to 31 when im browsing the web ...however if if restart my pc and log int o the bios,..this temp rises all the way to 60C in the bios screen. Can anyone