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PLEASE stop reopening or discussing this in here. This is not a proper place
for such discussion - this is not a forum or mailing list but bug reporting
software and xorg developers concluded this is NOT A BUG.
If you really want some changes in DPI area then please discuss it through
proper chann
(In reply to comment #20)
> It was chosen in order to make display of web pages using Xorg more consistent
> with the way they get displayed on Windows, which by default assumes 96.
It's called bug compatibility, and there's a knob in a browser for that already.
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However you look at it this is a bug.
Xorg changed from working to bogus and broken behaviour.
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[gm45] wrong scre
I've created feature request to add patch from comment 17:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41115
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[g
PLEASE stop reopening or discussing this in here. This is not a proper
place for such discussion - this is not a forum or mailing list but bug
reporting software and xorg developers concluded this is NOT A BUG.
If you really want some changes in DPI area then please discuss it
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Was it really fixed??? I can't find any related fixed in git's master.
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Title:
[gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s
I'm seeing this bug too with the nouveau driver:
[ 745.858] (**) NOUVEAU(0): Display dimensions: (330, 210) mm
[ 745.858] (**) NOUVEAU(0): DPI set to (129, 127)
...
[ 745.892] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Setting screen physical size to 444 x 277
I noticed this after switching from the proprietary nvid
Created attachment 51062
X log from 1.11.0
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I'm seeing this bug too with nouveau driver. I've set DisplaySize to 474
296.
At first it looks okay:
[ 45437.510] (**) NOUVEAU(0): Display dimensions: (474, 296) mm
[ 45437.510] (**) NOUVEAU(0): DPI set to (90, 90)
and sets it to 96 dpi...
[ 45437.530] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Setting screen physical
Please add an option (command-line or config file) to make the X server
stop lying about the physical DPI of the display device. I understand
all the arguments for pegging DPI at 96, but *I* still want my X server
to report the actual DPI as read from the EDID.
Maybe add an -autodpi command-line
(In reply to comment #27)
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:58:07PM -0800, bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
> wrote:
> > --- Comment #26 from Andrey Rahmatullin 2010-02-16
> > 22:58:04 PST ---
> > (In reply to comment #20)
> > > It was chosen in order to make display of web pages using Xorg more
> >
Take it from a typographer
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/realfontsontheweb
"We have a world of display devices that have standardized to report their
exact resolution, the space it occupies, and thus the pixels per inch, a key to
moving text typography forward."
Who wants to break the news t
(In reply to comment #77)
> (Chrome already does so, in a misguided attempt to force a constant ratio
> between "px" and "pt" across all websites.
Chrome does because it's built on WebKit, where 96 as the only
possibility is the traditional Macintosh way, which became also the
Internet Explorer d
Retitling this bug, since it affects current X servers as well, though
possibly only randr-1.2-capable drivers as mentioned in comment 63 and
the immediately preceding comments.
This needs fixing. Each time I set up a new system, I end up with
incredibly tiny fonts, and I end up having to manaull
(In reply to comment #74)
> Created an attachment (id=45751) [details]
> 120 DPI full 1600x1200 desktop screenshot
>
> This demonstrates the current state of elevated actual DTE DPI affairs, as of
> the release of openSUSE 11.4 about 5 weeks ago. Video chip is rv380. Driver is
> radeon. 120 DPI is
Created attachment 45875
setting DisplaySize
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Created attachment 45751
120 DPI full 1600x1200 desktop screenshot
This demonstrates the current state of elevated actual DTE DPI affairs,
as of the release of openSUSE 11.4 about 5 weeks ago. Video chip is
rv380. Driver is radeon. 120 DPI is achieved exclusively via DisplaySize
in xorg.conf. Note
(In reply to comment #72)
> (In reply to comment #50)
> > We need an xorg.conf flag -- for example, NVIDIA has "UseEDIDDpi".
>
> Definitely. Is it that hard to implement?
No. A patch was attached to this report a year ago.
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> We need an xorg.conf flag -- for example, NVIDIA has "UseEDIDDpi".
Definitely. Is it that hard to implement?
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(In reply to comment #66)
> Okay, I meant to post this a while ago and forgot, but the recent churn has
> reminded me to do so. I'll start with the tl;dr:
>
> I don't think this bug matters anymore.
>
> It's been over a year since this bug was opened, and during that time I've
> come to the conc
Why should it have to care about screen size? 100% zoom is supposed to
be "app DPI matches screen DPI", it has nothing to do with the whole
screen.
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(In reply to comment #67)
> Let me disagree: I keep using my laptop either on a 17" monitor, or on a 21"
> monitor, or on the internal LVDS.
>
> In both 17" and 21" monitor cases, I do want 100% zoom to really mean 100%
> zoom, so I need correct DPI.
I don't understand what you mean by "100% zoom
> --- Comment #67 from Samuel Thibault
> 2011-02-13 14:27:50 PST ---
> In both 17" and 21" monitor cases, I do want 100% zoom to really mean 100%
> zoom, so I need correct DPI.
>
No, you need whatever app you're using to get the info about screen size
from somewhere it has a decent chance of bei
Let me disagree: I keep using my laptop either on a 17" monitor, or on a
21" monitor, or on the internal LVDS.
In both 17" and 21" monitor cases, I do want 100% zoom to really mean
100% zoom, so I need correct DPI.
Your reasoning leads to having to modify xorg.conf each time I switch,
which means
Okay, I meant to post this a while ago and forgot, but the recent churn has
reminded me to do so. I'll start with the tl;dr:
I don't think this bug matters anymore.
It's been over a year since this bug was opened, and during that time I've
come to the conclusion that one should simply *always* s
Guess this is an invite to leave for Wayland or whatever. My current
screen is 96 dpi (give or take a pixel) so I could care less but the
moment I switch to a display with different resolution I will have to
put up with this Xorg's insanity as well.
If Xorg is going to be bug-compatible with Windo
The bug is marked general, not Intel. Various comments spoke of at least
one other chip prior to my MGA comment 58. Before your comment 58
reached my eyes, I had to put that Intel host aside to work on the MGA
host, so I used that to demonstrate what I wrote in comment 58, that
"always" is incorrec
(In reply to comment #63)
> The bug is marked general, not Intel. Various comments spoke of at least one
> other chip prior to my MGA comment 58. Before your comment 58 reached my eyes,
> I had to put that Intel host aside to work on the MGA host, so I used that to
> demonstrate what I wrote in com
(In reply to comment #60)
> Created an attachment (id=43320) [details]
> 86 DPI screenshot
>
> What do I win? :-)
AFAIK this issue affects RandR 1.2 capable drivers only, and unless I'm
mistaken MGA is not such a driver.
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> Created an attachment (id=43320) [details]
> 86 DPI screenshot
>
> What do I win? :-)
You posted a log with intel, but your screenshot says mga...
Regards,
Andrei
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86 DPI screenshot
What do I win? :-)
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To man
(In reply to comment #58)
> There may have been a time when that was the case, but this was filed by an
> Intel video user long before KMS was required by the Intel driver. Obviously
> from the attachment, using no xorg.conf, xrandr, xorg.conf.d/ or anything else
> to force DPI, "always" is not t
(In reply to comment #56)
> (In reply to comment #55)
> > Please use the correct dpi by default.
>
> If it doesn't, it's usually:
>
> 1-your distro's fault, or
> 2-your hardware's fault, or
> 3-your use of unequal DPI multiple displays, which is a complicated problem
> for
> X to deal with
>
>
Created attachment 43316
Xorg.0.log from server 1.9.3 using 86x86 DPI on i845G
(In reply to comment #57)
> Isn't this bug precisely about X.org *always ignoring* the hardware DPI value
> from the EDID?
There may have been a time when that was the case, but this was filed by
an Intel video user lo
(In reply to comment #55)
> Please use the correct dpi by default.
If it doesn't, it's usually:
1-your distro's fault, or
2-your hardware's fault, or
3-your use of unequal DPI multiple displays, which is a complicated problem for
X to deal with
X automagic configuration will fall back to 96 if
Is this bug fixed in a newer release? A fix would be using the original
behaviour or providing an option to revert to the original behaviour.
I got a new monitor with 109 DPI yesterday and started to struggle with
too small font sizes. I was not aware of this bug because my old monitor
had approx
The correct DPI is needed for legibility when the same user uses the
same font size settings on multiple monitors. When the user sets the
base font size to be legible in on 1 monitor and then goes to another
which has a higher (true) DPI he will get poorly legible fonts.
The correct DPI is needed
Please use the correct dpi by default.
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I notice the upstream bug report is closed as 'not a bug' - IOW forcing
the dpi to 96 is by design. We were actually patching X to do the same
thing before they started doing it there as well, so this is not
something we're liable to want to change. Perhaps some better
configuration logic in kde
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It's not a bug it's a feature! :-(
It sounds like you are experiencing upstream
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705 . To be honest, I also
don't understand why the xserver needs to lie about the display size.
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As a workaround, I have put the following in my ~/.xsessionrc:
xrandr --fbmm 261x163 || true
This setups proper DPI and my fonts have proper size.
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