[users] Re: simplex solver?

David Chapman wrote: Also check this link out - a Linux platform based LP solver add-in for OOo. http://solver.linuxml.com/ All the best, Dave This is what i was looking for. The examples work just fine, however i could not get the LPSolve menu item to show up under the Tools menu. any ideas? OO1

Re: [users] Updating data with Mail merge in OpenOffice.org 1.1.4

G. Roderick Singleton escribió: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 16:25 +0200, forolinux wrote: Hi! I have a spreadsheet with some data in columns, and a text documment with some filds referring this sheet. I want to open the sheet, change the data, and make a mail merge, but it doesn't work until I close

Re: [users] 1.9.79 Calc page formatting for printing

Thanks for that - I thought I was going in the right direction - just must have done it wrong before! Cherie Sandra K. wrote: On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:26:14 +1200, Cherie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi folks, I am used to using Excel, and a great formatting tool is to force the first row to appear

Re: [users] open office,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sorry, just sent an email with you problem, of open office 1.1.0 it said error occurred , get storage, name, no content, i sent it without telling you the type i had, thanks, sue Please download 1.1.4, the current version, and see if the problem persists. HTH, -- Pe

Re: [users] Bizarre problem

That is what I was thinking. Paul wrote: There is a maximum length of a single paragraph that has been mentioned on this list in the past. If what you are pasting is all a single paragraph then this could be the case. Try bre

Re: [users] Document version number

Howard Burford wrote: I think this has come up before, but the problem seems not to have been fixed. If I open a new document in Writer, and then paste-in stuff from an existing document which contains the document-version field, the old version number carries over, instead of resetting to 1 which

Re: [users] Open Office has totally wrecked my computer

Lulu Kenzig wrote: Hopefully someone is able to help me with my query. I installed OpenOffice and despite not clicking on the required section for it to take over all of my existing programs, it has indeed done that and now I am unable to open over 5 years worth of work - research, lectures, patien

Re: [users] spreadsheet problems

Carl Paulsen wrote: I'm new to OO, using 1.1.4 on XP I opened a Quattro spreadsheet that contained cross tab reports, but it appears all the cross tabs were converted to raw data and not the OO equivalent "Data Pilot" reports. Is this normal, and is there a way to open the file so it converts t

Re: [users] Options - Calc

John Barman wrote: Reply 93618 by Niklas Nebel Many thanks Niklas for your diagnosis of my problem, which was spot on. I suppose it has arisen because all of my spreadsheets in current use were those converted from 1-2-3 (via Excel), they didn't pick up the default settings - so I found the itera

Re: [users] Screw up

As you are not posted to the list, you may have missed this post. Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday, 18 April 2005 16:18, Orjan Henningson wrote: After I had downloaded OpenOffice, I noted that some of my WordPerfect files had been converted to OpenOffice files with no options to convert it back to WP

Re: [users] Screw up

As you are not subscribed, you may have missed this post. SIPS wrote: This is kind of strange -- cause I can pick from 12 different version of English (including one for Canada --ay) , and flip between UK and US versions regularly, and I have never seen open office convert a file without popping

Re: [users] Screw up

As you are not subscribed, you may have missed this post. z.a.kaleta wrote: Dnia poniedziaÅek, 18 kwietnia 2005 16:18, Orjan Henningson napisaÅ: After I had downloaded OpenOffice, I noted that some of my WordPerfect files had been converted to OpenOffice files with no options to convert it back to

Re: [users] OO 1.9.93 Options - Calc

John Barman wrote: Thanks to all for guidance on how to download the above version. This I have now done and installed it on my system. I regret to say however, that the problem is still there. I will try to explain it again. If I have a spreadsheet open, and from the menu I go to Tools-Options-O

Re: [users] More than four recent files list

Álvaro Vallejo wrote: Hi, Is there a way to show more than four items in the recent files list in the File menu of each OOo application? Four items are simply too few, especially if they are shared in all OOo applications. OS: WinXP OOo version: 1.1.4 Thanks! http://openoffice.peschtra.com/tips/

Re: [users] Problem with auto recovery screen in 2.0 beta

Dan Lewis wrote: On Tuesday 19 April 2005 09:40 am, Brian wrote: Dan Lewis wrote: I have similar problems with Win 98SE on a laptop. I have no such problems with the 1.1.79 or 1.1.90.1 on Windows 98SE, so I would suggerst it is not a Win98 problem Would you please quote more of my email? Thi

Re: [users] Odd behaviour with incorrectly set clock

James Tappin wrote: This is probably more a curiosity than anything, but it might ring a bell with someone. I was running OO 1.1.3 on Debian PPC (iBook), and it so happened that the system clock was way off (giving a date of Jan 1904) probably as a result of PRAM corruption during an OSX upgrade pl

Re: [users] user defined date format switch day and month automatically

Yong Bong Fong wrote: Hi Mr Kupfer, Thanks for your help, I am using calc Ooo 2.0 Beta version. I am stumped. I repeated the steps you listed below, and the dates work fine for me. Maybe have your friend reinstall or something, I am not sure. Sorry. -- Peter Kupfer -- Using OOo since 'OO4 -- [EM

Re: [users] Unable to build a deployable .msi package for multiple users on multiple workstations

On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 07:03 -0400, Joy Harvey wrote: > I need to build a "package" to deploy through group policy. I have > OpenOffice 1.1.4 installed on a server. To install I ran the command > x:\instdir\setup.exe -net. I assigned read and execute rights and shared > the folder. To install on a

Re: [users] using ftp to open a document

This question is better suited to the dev@api.openoffice.org list. I have forwarded it there and suggest that is where you will get the best answers. On a guess, I would guess you have permissions problems that your macro does not address in 2.0bc. On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 15:41 -0400, Matthew L. Avi

Re: [users] OO 2.0 Beta (1.9.79)

G. Roderick Singleton wrote: On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 11:53 -0400, John W. Kennedy wrote: Robin Laing wrote: G. Roderick Singleton wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 11:08 +0200, Simon Ceh wrote: Hello users/fans of OO! With OO 2.0 Beta I encountered folowing error(s): 1.- When newly created document is s

Re: [users] Mouse cursor positioning problem

On Thursday 21 April 2005 10:47 pm, Joe wrote: > Hi. I'm using OOo 1.1.4 Writer on Windoze 98 (My other computer runs > Linux ;)). Last night something happened and when I clicked the > mouse anywhere in the text, it highlighted a whole block of text > (presumably from the last cursor p

[users] Re: simplex solver?

Paul wrote: Have a look at : http://user-faq.openoffice.org/faq/ar01s06.html#id2874819 Paul On 4/19/05, kb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: in Excel there is a solver that can be used to solve LP problems. i quess that it uses the simplex method. is there any equivalent solver in openoffice?

[users] Re: Hot keys for macros in Calc

Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: Paul B. wrote: Has anyone been able to assign hotkeys to macros? No success here, on multiple tries. Paul I was able to do this with no problems. Try this first Open a new Write document. Add a new macro in the standard library of the Write document. Assign the

[users] Re: Finding an Instance of a Font

Johan Vromans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The symbol font is quite tricky, since it may be used for unexpected > (and/or invisible) things. Indeed, it turned out to be the (automatically provided) bullets in a certain enumeration. -- Johan

Re: [users] Re: simplex solver?

kb wrote: Paul wrote: Have a look at : http://user-faq.openoffice.org/faq/ar01s06.html#id2874819 Paul On 4/19/05, kb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: in Excel there is a solver that can be used to solve LP problems. i quess that it uses the simplex method. is there any equivalent solver in openoffice?

Re: [users] maths formula toolbox visible

I'm not sure it is what you are looking for but from the menu Insert->Function List gives you a sidebar on the right which gives you access to the formula double-clicking will put the formula into the current selected cell. Steve --- Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is only visible while you

Re: [users] using ftp to open a document

This question is probably better answered on the dev mailing list. You might need to open an issue in the bug tracker. Matthew L. Avizinis wrote: Hello all, Here's something interesting to ponder I hope. I am using 1.9.95 Writer. I am opening sxw documents with ftp in the form ftp://username:

Re: [users] Re: simplex solver?

On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 20:28 +0200, kb wrote: > Paul wrote: > > Have a look at : http://user-faq.openoffice.org/faq/ar01s06.html#id2874819 > > > > Paul > > > > On 4/19/05, kb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>in Excel there is a solver that can be used to solve LP problems. > >>i quess that it u

Re: [users] OO 2.0 Beta (1.9.79)

Robin Laing wrote: G. Roderick Singleton wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 11:08 +0200, Simon Ceh wrote: Hello users/fans of OO! With OO 2.0 Beta I encountered folowing error(s): 1.- When newly created document is saved for the first time in Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp (.doc) format I get I/O error (see

[users] [moderated]

I was recomended to you by www.csanola.com and I do not know anything about  you. I had Microsoft Office and it was only A 60 temporary version.  I have not Deleted it off my Add & Remove Programs yet. I see you have  2 versions. Is their anyway to take A tour of www.openoffice.org   I

RE: [users] Also....

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 11:14 AM To: users@openoffice.org Subject: [users] Also Also, I was asked this "Please provide your OS, release of OOo and tell us whether you tried File > AutoPilot > Install fonts

Re: [users] Position on Page & Current File name, overlooking

On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 21:04 +0200, Verner KjÃrsgaard wrote: > Hi List, > > - have I missed something here, I just can't seem to find how to > > a) > see where my cursor is located (vertically) down from the top, i.e. noted in > inches or centimeters I do not think there is anything like that i

Re: [users] OO 2.0 Beta (1.9.79)

On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 11:53 -0400, John W. Kennedy wrote: > Robin Laing wrote: > > G. Roderick Singleton wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 11:08 +0200, Simon Ceh wrote: > >> > >>> Hello users/fans of OO! > >>> > >>> With OO 2.0 Beta I encountered folowing error(s): > >>> > >>> 1.- When newly c

[users] Re: Reformatting multiple cells

Paul wrote: The better way of doing this is by creating a style which has the correct number format that you want. When you select multiple cells, you simply change the style which should remain. Paul On 4/22/05, Paul B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It often happens that I try to reformat multiple c

Re: [users] open office

On Friday 22 April 2005 04:49 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > each time i try to open my open office i get a error report saying > --- get storage, name, no content. how do i fix that?? thank you, > sue This information is available in the Setup Guide that came with open office. Do a searc

[users] open office,

sorry, just sent an email with you problem, of open office 1.1.0 it said error occurred , get storage, name, no content, i sent it without telling you the type i had, thanks, sue

[users] open office

each time i try to open my open office i get a error report saying --- get storage, name, no content. how do i fix that?? thank you, sue

Re: [users] 1.9.79 Calc page formatting for printing

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 12:26:14 +1200, Cherie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi folks, I am used to using Excel, and a great formatting tool is to force the first row to appear at the top of every printed page. If I remember correctly, it was in the Page setup, and I could simply tick a box saying "row

Re: [users] Installation Problem on 1.9.79 on Win XP

Thankyou all The problem lies with using stuffit to unzip, it's installation interferes with .cab file The way round it is to right click the OOo zip file and select 'open with' and choose 'windows compressed folder' from the list another way would be to associate the .cab extension with a diffe

[users] Anfrage

Hallo liebes OpenOffice-Team! Wenn man beim OpenOffice Calc folgende Formel eingibt (siehe Anhang), wie kommt man dann zum Ergebnis? Ich möchte 2,5% vom Wert in zelle A1 haben. Gruß Rainer - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

[users] Re: Hot keys for macros in Calc

Anthony Chilco wrote: Hi Paul, No problem. Here's what you need to do: Right-click the tool bar area and choose 'configure'. Select the 'keyboard' tab on the configuration dialogue. At the top right, check that 'Calc' is selected. In the 'shortcut keys' pane, pick a key to assign to the macro. In t

Re: [users] Missing Lines on spread sheet. protection is off.

As no one more knowledgeable has replied ... Check that you do not have Print ranges enabled. Just a guess. Also, check your fonts, etc. to make sure your printer can print what you're (hopefully) sending to it. Joe Normanbates U.S.N. Retired wrote: When starting new spread sheet After inserting

Fwd: [users] Page Preview

Thanks Paul, now I know what the problem is, the add button doesn't come on so that you could click on it. And suggestion on how to get that button to come on so I could use it?       Thanks  Jerry --- Begin Message --- Right click in the tool bar area tha

[users] using ftp to open a document

Hello all, Here's something interesting to ponder I hope. I am using 1.9.95 Writer. I am opening sxw documents with ftp in the form ftp://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path-to-file which reside on a Linux server. It is opened via a macro which uses the line: Doc = StarDesktop.loadCompo

Re: [users] [moderated]

I don't know about others here, but I find such a brash way of requesting help distasteful. Your repetition of "ASAP", among other things, seems to imply that you believe the people on this list have some kind of obligation to provide you with help with OOo. People here will respond when they

[users] Also....

Also, I was asked this "Please provide your OS, release of OOo and tell us whether you tried File > AutoPilot > Install fonts from the web ..." And no... since I am brands new to OOo, I haven't a clue what that is. I thought, like MSWorks, the fonts all came with the program... not the OS.

[users] Re: [Scripting] possible to modify a database form field?

Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: Jens Ansorg wrote: Yes, that works here too. I get the desired textbox. Now I need to figure out whether it is possible to get the selected text inside that textbox. something like oDoc.getCurrentSelection() unfortunately only works on the writer page behind the fo

[users] Sorry...

My OS is Win XP home, my version of OOo is... 1.1.4 Thanks!

[users] Re: simplex solver?

Also check this link out - a Linux platform based LP solver add-in for OOo. http://solver.linuxml.com/ All the best, Dave -- My OpenOffice Calc Website http://www.openofficetips.com On 4/22/05, kb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul wrote: > > Have a look at : > http://user-faq.openoffice.org/

Re: [users] [moderated]

On Friday, 22 April 2005 14:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I need to know ASAP how to increase the amount of fonts that are on > the Open Office Suite. I need other fonts and CAN NOT find a > download for them. Surely you have other fonts... yes? > > Please advise and send me the link or the down

Re: [users] [moderated]

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:17:51 -0500 "normanjacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was recomended to you by www.csanola.com and I do not know > anything about you. I had Microsoft Office and it was only A 60 > temporary version. I have not Deleted it off my Add & Remove > Programs yet. I s

Re: [users] Position on Page & Current File name, overlooking

Answer to a) inline. On Friday 22 April 2005 02:04 pm, Verner Kjærsgaard wrote: > Hi List, > > - have I missed something here, I just can't seem to find how to > > a) > see where my cursor is located (vertically) down from the top, i.e. > noted in inches or centimeters Tools > Options. T

[users] 1.9.79 Calc page formatting for printing

Hi folks, I am used to using Excel, and a great formatting tool is to force the first row to appear at the top of every printed page. If I remember correctly, it was in the Page setup, and I could simply tick a box saying "rows to appear at top" and type in A1. The same would work for columns.

Re: [users] Re: Bizarre problem

Paul wrote: Well there goes my idea of having a million page novel. ;-) As was already pointed out, it's still possible if you cut it in several pieces (like Chapters). On the other (off-topic) hand, just think about the time it takes. I'd say (from experience and from conversations with oth

[users] Re: simplex solver?

Here is a basic tutorial on the use of Goal Seek. Feedback is welcome... http://www.openofficetips.com/blog/archives/2004/10/goal_seek.html All the best, Dave -- My OpenOffice Calc Website http://www.openofficetips.com On 4/22/05, kb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul wrote: > > Have a look

[users] Position on Page & Current File name, overlooking

Hi List, - have I missed something here, I just can't seem to find how to a) see where my cursor is located (vertically) down from the top, i.e. noted in inches or centimeters b) how to insert a live field in a document, stating the path and filename of the current document. It's propably i

Re: [users] [moderated]

OpenOffice has two versions, the official release and the development version, If you want the newest features but accept a risk of having problems (bugs, things not working, ...) install the Beta 2.0, but if you want something that work's well, with less features but less problems then install the

[users] [moderated]

I need to know ASAP how to increase the amount of fonts that are on the Open Office Suite. I need other fonts and CAN NOT find a download for them. Surely you have other fonts... yes? Please advise and send me the link or the download ASAP thanks! Mike Darrow

[users] Unable to build a deployable .msi package for multiple users on multiple workstations

I need to build a "package" to deploy through group policy. I have OpenOffice 1.1.4 installed on a server. To install I ran the command x:\instdir\setup.exe -net. I assigned read and execute rights and shared the folder. To install on a workstation, I chose a workstation installation and followed

Re: [users] Re: Bizarre problem

Hi Paul, When you set out to write that mega novel, I think that you'd want to use a master document anyway, so you don't have to have the whole thing loaded all at once. I would imagine then that the limit would be 65536 linked docs, each with 852000 pages. That would satisfy you, right? tc P

Re: [users] Hot keys for macros in Calc

Hi Paul, No problem. Here's what you need to do: Right-click the tool bar area and choose 'configure'. Select the 'keyboard' tab on the configuration dialogue. At the top right, check that 'Calc' is selected. In the 'shortcut keys' pane, pick a key to assign to the macro. In the 'category' pane sel

Re: [users] LOOKUP OOo 2.0 beta problem

Sorry, I knew that, but it slipped my mind. I use the 'not sorted' option even if it's a sorted list because the sorted option will return the closest value if there is no match. tc Steve wrote: Thanks for your help VLOOKUP was the answer once I had said 'no sort': VLOOKUP(LEFT(C18;3);A$8:D$14;4

Re: [users] Re: Bizarre problem

Paul wrote: Little off topic, but with these constraints it seems that the longest OOo writer document would be around 852,000 pages long ( 65536 characters = 13 pages * 65536 paragraphs - with a little rounding)... Well there goes my idea of having a million page novel. ;-) Paul But how many t

Re: [users] OO 2.0 Beta (1.9.79)

G. Roderick Singleton wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 11:08 +0200, Simon Ceh wrote: Hello users/fans of OO! With OO 2.0 Beta I encountered folowing error(s): 1.- When newly created document is saved for the first time in Microsoft Word 97/2000/xp (.doc) format I get I/O error (see attached binary).

Re: [users] LOOKUP OOo 2.0 beta problem

Thanks for your help VLOOKUP was the answer once I had said 'no sort': VLOOKUP(LEFT(C18;3);A$8:D$14;4;0) --- Anthony Chilco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Steve, > I didn't look closely enough at your formula. You can do the > job nicely with vlookup. Save yourself the hassle of editing > the

Re: [users] Document version number

If this remains an issue which no one can resolve, raise an enhancement request and then post the number to the list for people to vote for. /paul On 4/22/05, Howard Burford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think this has come up before, but the problem seems not to have been > fixed. > > If I ope

Re: [users] [moderated]

If you are trying to open a .doc file from outlook, yet you have set OO to open .doc files then it is doing what you are telling it to do. If you don't want OOo to handle .doc files you need to change the file association. /paul On 4/22/05, Ted Stoddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For some rea

Re: [users] Macro to load kbd-config file containing assigned macros

* CPHennessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [220405, 00:39]: > On Sunday 03 April 2005 23:44, Ennio-Sr wrote: > > [using OOo-1.1.4 under Debian/Sarge] > > > > Hi all, > > > > I created a few macros and assigned them to some CTRL+Letter keys. Then [...] > > Hi Ennio, > As per almost all macro questions, thes

[users] Document version number

I think this has come up before, but the problem seems not to have been fixed. If I open a new document in Writer, and then paste-in stuff from an existing document which contains the document-version field, the old version number carries over, instead of resetting to 1 which would seem the logica

RE: [users] Wrong page numbers in table of contents (OOo 1.1.1)

> -Original Message- > From: CPHennessy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 April 2005 23:30 > To: users@openoffice.org; Les Rose > Subject: Re: [users] Wrong page numbers in table of contents (OOo 1.1.1) > > > On Monday 11 April 2005 21:25, + Les Rose wrote: > > I seem to have missed som

RE: [users] [moderated] Updates and securitiy patches

Thanks for your effort. I got a previous answer from an "observer" with more or less the same information. Erwin Pfeifer South Tyrol (Italy) -Original Message- From: CPHennessy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Donnerstag, 21. April 2005 23:50 To: users@openoffice.org; Pfeifer, Erwin Subje

Re: [users] Finding an Instance of a Font

On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:47:53 +1200 Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only thing I can think of is to reapply all the styles. If you are > sure that you have used no symbol styles, then reapplying the styles > that you have used should not effect anything but that font which has > creeped in. >

[users] [moderated]

For some reason, OpenOffice is preventing me from printing Outlook Express attachments in Word. Can you help?? Thanks, TLStoddard 3500 Turner Lane Chevy Chase, MD 20815-3214 301-652-4256 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [users] diagramm in calc

Hello Daniel, Danke für die hilfe, ich hatte die antwort allein gefunden in lesen den bevorgesendete digests. Super die liste es ist die einzige ich kenne wo die thema miteinander geordnet sind aber die antwort weise muss erlernt werden Gutes wochenende Hubert Sturtzer Hi, Hub schrieb: Is it po

Re: [users] Change standard number format (more info)

Gert Blij schrieb: The standard number format I meant is the one in Calc that in the number formatting table is called "Standard". I would like the "Standard" format to be -#,##0.00, can I do that? No, the way the "Standard" number format shows the value is fixed. But you can change the number for

[users] Re: Finding an Instance of a Font

DC Parris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have written a book that I plan to publish on Lulu.com. According to > Lulu's help info, OOo should convert to PDF pretty well. However, I have a > symbol font that does not get embedded into the PDF file. Since I used > paragraph styles for my text (an

[users] Change standard number format (more info)

The standard number format I meant is the one in Calc that in the number formatting table is called "Standard". I would like the "Standard" format to be -#,##0.00, can I do that? TIA Gert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [users] Stykles in Document do not match current styles?

On Friday, 22 April 2005 05:51, Joe wrote: > I know this is an OOo feature, but ... when I open a writer > document after the template or styles it is based on have changed > (or at least OOo thinks they have changed), I get one chance to > leave it alone or let it update. > > That's cool, but ...

Re: [users] error 508 in xls file opened in ooo calc

Hi, John King schrieb: I have been sent an xls file that throws up errors when opened in both ooo1.1.4 and 2beta, on both windows and linux. It works perfectly when used on MSOffice 2000. The file uses the INDIRECT function extensively, and I suspect that is [...] The INDIRECT function has 2 limita

Re: [users] diagramm in calc

Hi, Hub schrieb: Is it possible to change the area which is diagrammed in an already created diagram. You have several alternatives: 1) Single-click the chart (green handles), right-click, source ranges. 2) Drag&drop a cell range to set the new range 3) Drag a range, then CTRL+drop to *add* the ra

Re: [users] Faxing

I know this is belated (I'm behind on my email), but also check out man fax. It's a front end for efax and much simpler to use. I set mine up as "fax send PHONE" , but have not had occasion to actually try it yet, son I don't know if it works. Joe G. Roderick Singleton wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-0