Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-20 Thread de Almeida, Valmor F.
e 20, 2008 2:09 AM > To: vbox-users@virtualbox.org > Subject: Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage > > On Thursday 19 June 2008, JD wrote: > > Stating the obvious that virtualization cannot be as fast > > as running on raw HW is not the issue at all. > > I woul

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Frank Mehnert
On Thursday 19 June 2008, JD wrote: > Stating the obvious that virtualization cannot be as fast > as running on raw HW is not the issue at all. I would suggest you to read some papers about full virtualization and first. > I am noticing 100% cpu utilization by VBox when I run > apps on guest, whi

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Pablo Sanchez
On Thursday 19 June 2008 at 4:45 pm, JD penned about "Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage" > Go ahead - make my day, Mr. NULL :) Done! Good luck with your whining. -- Pablo Sanchez - Blueoak Database Engineering, Inc Ph:819.459.1926 Fax: 760

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread JD
Go ahead - make my day, Mr. NULL :) Pablo Sanchez wrote: On Thursday 19 June 2008 at 4:28 pm, JD penned about "Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage" Which part of my writing called anyone "silly" or "stop consuming other peoples bandwidth" ..etc. I

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Dr. Diesel
Agreed. On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Pablo Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 19 June 2008 at 4:09 pm, JD penned > Frankly, I found Michael's response spot-on. Perhaps there's a > language barrier but I found your posts to be a bit aggressive. > > Perhaps you might want to refl

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Pablo Sanchez
On Thursday 19 June 2008 at 4:28 pm, JD penned about "Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage" > Which part of my writing called anyone "silly" or "stop consuming > other peoples bandwidth" ..etc. I think you might want to adjust > your bias settin

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread JD
2008 at 4:09 pm, JD penned about "Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage" Does you manager know you have this type of attitude? Frankly, I found Michael's response spot-on. Perhaps there's a language barrier but I found your posts to be a bit aggressive. P

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread JD
Stating the obvious that virtualization cannot be as fast as running on raw HW is not the issue at all. I am noticing 100% cpu utilization by VBox when I run apps on guest, which when run on host, do not use more than 15 - 20 % of cpu. So no matter what "optimizations" are implemented in VBox, I

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Pablo Sanchez
On Thursday 19 June 2008 at 4:09 pm, JD penned about "Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage" > Does you manager know you have this type of > attitude? Frankly, I found Michael's response spot-on. Perhaps there's a language barrier but I found your po

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread JD
Does you manager know you have this type of attitude? Perhaps you should find another job. eh? No one is coercing YOU to respond to my emails. Just because I stated that on non-Vtech cpus, all guest code is interpreted (actually, even by the source code you mentionsed) scant little of guest apps o

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Frank Mehnert
On Thursday 19 June 2008, JD wrote: > For the sake of most of us who do not have the > time bandwidth, would you be kind enough to state > the location in the source code where guest > instructions are run natively on non-VT hardware? > It would be very helpful. There is not only one place. But ha

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Michael Thayer
JD wrote: > For the sake of most of us who do not have the > time bandwidth, would you be kind enough to state > the location in the source code where guest > instructions are run natively on non-VT hardware? > It would be very helpful. src/VBox/VMM/EM.cpp, function emR3RawExecute(). If your time

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Frank Mehnert
On Thursday 19 June 2008, Michael Thayer wrote: > JD wrote: > > Since the context we are in on this list is > > full HW platform virtualization, > > each and every guest instruction is "interpreted" > > on non-VT platforms, such as on my AMD64 3700+ cpu, > > VBOX is the 100% interpreter of 100% of

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread JD
For the sake of most of us who do not have the time bandwidth, would you be kind enough to state the location in the source code where guest instructions are run natively on non-VT hardware? It would be very helpful. Cheers, JD Michael Thayer wrote: JD wrote: Since the context we are in on

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Michael Thayer
JD wrote: > Since the context we are in on this list is > full HW platform virtualization, > each and every guest instruction is "interpreted" > on non-VT platforms, such as on my AMD64 3700+ cpu, > VBOX is the 100% interpreter of 100% of the guest > OS and guest apps. If this is not the case, ple

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread JD
vidence in source code of VBOx where it applies to non-VT hardware. JD Pablo Sanchez wrote: On Thursday 19 June 2008 at 12:58 pm, JD penned about "Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage" I really do not think there is any way out of this. A virtual machine is by necessi

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Michael Thayer
Gaurav Verma wrote: > Micheal, I cannot help asking this question: is there anyway to enable raw > mode in Windows host? Would it not be faster if it were to be made possible. Hello Gaurav, It is automatic, unless you are using hardware virtualisation. Compare with Qemu to see the speed differe

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread JD
OK, so how can I tell if VBOX is running in raw mode as explained by bullett 3 of section: Inside a virtual machine Your CPU can be *running guest ring-3 code natively* (within the ring-3 host VM process). With VirtualBox, we call this "raw ring 3". This

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Gaurav Verma
:48 PM Subject: Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage JD wrote: > I have heard of VM's which let guest code run directly > on cpu. I dont know much of the details of this, but I > suspect it might apply only to guest apps which are > running in user mode only (i.e. no sysc

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Pablo Sanchez
On Thursday 19 June 2008 at 12:58 pm, JD penned about "Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage" > I really do not think there is any way out of this. A virtual > machine is by necessity an interpreter of guest machine code. Hi, Virtualization != traditional Interpr

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Michael Thayer
JD wrote: > I have heard of VM's which let guest code run directly > on cpu. I dont know much of the details of this, but I > suspect it might apply only to guest apps which are > running in user mode only (i.e. no syscall's). Perhaps someone > on this list could elaborate on this. When it is run

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Gaurav Verma
JD, Roger that.. :) - Original Message From: JD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: VirtualBox end user list Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:58:42 PM Subject: Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage I really do not think there is any way out of this. A virtual machine is by necess

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Pablo Sanchez
On Thursday 19 June 2008 at 12:16 pm, Gaurav Verma penned about "Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage" > I hate to revive this old thread, but I am having a really tough > time running 2+ VMS (even with VRAM of 300MB each on a host having > 2GB real RAM). The main

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread JD
From: JD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: VirtualBox end user list Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:19:53 PM Subject: Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage I have the same problem with both hosts: win xp and Fedora 7. Running the guest and doing any useful kind of work on the guest, espec

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-19 Thread Gaurav Verma
. -- Thanks Gaurav - Original Message From: JD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: VirtualBox end user list Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:19:53 PM Subject: Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage I have the same problem with both hosts: win xp and Fedora 7. Running the guest and doi

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-06-17 Thread de Almeida, Valmor F.
t; [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Thayer > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:40 AM > To: VirtualBox end user list > Subject: Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage > > Hello Valmor, > > Can you try killing the VBoxClient process on the guest (which manages > the sh

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-05-24 Thread Conrad Lawes
ist > Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:19:53 PM > Subject: Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage > > I have the same problem with both hosts: > win xp and Fedora 7. Running the guest and doing > any useful kind of work on the guest, especially > when doing disk io and/or

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-05-24 Thread Gaurav Verma
Definitely a problem that needs to be fixed. Will someone from the virtualbox development speak up on this? - Original Message From: JD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: VirtualBox end user list Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:19:53 PM Subject: Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu us

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-05-23 Thread Gaurav Verma
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: VirtualBox end user list Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:02:16 PM Subject: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage Hello, I have vbox-1.6 installed on a Windows XP host and a linux gentoo guest fully functional. More often than not, VirtualBox.exe suddenly takes up 98%

Re: [vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-05-23 Thread JD
I have the same problem with both hosts: win xp and Fedora 7. Running the guest and doing any useful kind of work on the guest, especially when doing disk io and/or net io, it sucks up from 70 to 100% of my amd64 3700+ cpu. This is my experience with VB 1.5.x and the current 1.6. JD de Almeida, V

[vbox-users] VirtualBox.exe: 98% cpu usage

2008-05-23 Thread de Almeida, Valmor F.
Hello, I have vbox-1.6 installed on a Windows XP host and a linux gentoo guest fully functional. More often than not, VirtualBox.exe suddenly takes up 98% of the CPU usage. The Windows machine becomes very slow and I have to shutdown the linux guest, quit vbox, wait for the CPU usage return not n