Re: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread Joseph Harris
Oh dear, both ignorance and memory (though I don't know and I don't remember) seem a problem - htc file? And I also wanted to sidestep Javascript issues as I recall. Joseph > Are you talking about something like the suckerfish menu > (http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/50.php) or a dropdow

RE:[wdvltalk] what makes web/blog site good?

2005-01-27 Thread Steven Streight
Marc Seyon, as usual, had a smart and comprehensive reply, commenting in detail on other comments. You said what I was thinking, regarding how both user and site owner needs must be met, but if you don't meet user needs, site owner needs are a moot point. If user needs are not properly addressed,

RE: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Those are DOM manipulated dropdowns using nested lists and css. With the htc file and they will work on IE. They will work on Opera and Safari. They will not work in NN 4.x. I hadn't seen Cheng's version and his are elegantly done. Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer Microsoft Fr

RE: [wdvltalk] what makes a web/blog site succeed?

2005-01-27 Thread William Stewart
For my blog (some gratuitous advertising here: http://www.williamstewart.org ), I take the philosophy that there are quite possibly other people out there like me. So, I write for me and others like me read and enjoy. There are several basic elements that are necessary to make it work: 1) Writ

RE: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Are you talking about something like the suckerfish menu (http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/50.php) or a dropdown form field? For the suckerfish type menu you use an htc file and IE works fine. I use it on my site at http://wiserways.com/web Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Devel

Re: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread Joseph Harris
What would suckerfish and son of suckerfish be then? Or Cheng's version? Or here http://www.moronicbajebus.com/ perhaps. As Dorothy Parker might have put it ' A drop down menu based on lists is a drop down menu based on lists is a drop down menu based on lists' Or am I wrong? > Me neither

Re: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread Joseph Harris
Cheryl, I kept hitting snags trying to get drop down lists to work in IE and have abandonned the attempt for the moment. this was despite your help and the help of others on the list. I am sure I will pick it up again but not just now. For me the statement has truth :-o Joseph > What do y

Re: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread Joseph Harris
rudy et al, Answering why poems are 'broken' into short lines. To be very general the poem developed to bring meaning - often emotional - verbally (just means with words - 'orally' means spoken) in both an economical and effective way. It has developed into forms and methods quite distinct from

RE: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Me neither Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer Microsoft FrontPage MVP http://wiserways.com -Original Message- From: rudy rudy htmlin' since '96 and ne'er seen no drop-down sub list yet, dag nabbit • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvlta

Re: RE:[wdvltalk] what makes a web/blog site succeed?

2005-01-27 Thread rudy
> What ONE key ingredient makes a web or blog > successful? give us a harder one, please :o) this one's too easy it has a one-word answer content rudy • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface

Re: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread rudy
> I meant 'drop-down' sub lists of course; okay, again i apologize for missing the start of this lovely thread what is a 'drop-down' sub list? if you have a url where one exists in the wild, please share otherwise a description of this rare beast will have to do rudy htmlin' since '96 and ne'

Re: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread Joseph Harris
I meant 'drop-down' sub lists of course; for me at least, the cures seemed worse than the problem!! Joseph (Oh, I haven't started another one?) > [ out of context ] > > > because IE won't do sub-lists. > > sure it will > > > rudy > > > • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • >

RE:[wdvltalk] what makes a web/blog site succeed?

2005-01-27 Thread Steven Streight
I'm doing research and I desperately covet your Considered Experienced Opinion, my beloved colleagues: What ONE key ingredient makes a web or blog successful? What one aspect do all successful sites have in common? MY tentative answer: they meet the needs of users. There are so many types of si

Re: [wdvltalk] OT: Your expertise please!

2005-01-27 Thread Bankei
Most amateurs are using a DV converter and taking the video in through firewire. My company uses the Osprey 560 from Viewcast: http://www.viewcast.com/products/osprey.html Their more inexpensive card are quite good. You'll need some very fast drives to capture raw AVI. We use Medea RAID arrays

RE: [wdvltalk] OT - Suggestions Please

2005-01-27 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Check your printer options. I've had printers that had the ability to do what ClickBooks does. I used to have ClickBooks years ago of well. Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer Microsoft FrontPage MVP http://wiserways.com -Original Message- From: Peter MacGregor I pro

RE: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread Cheryl D Wise
What do you mean by " IE won't do sub lists"? I use multilevel lists all the time. Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer Microsoft FrontPage MVP http://wiserways.com -Original Message- From: Joseph Harris Thanks for the demo (and the approval). I was trying to use

[wdvltalk] OT - Suggestions Please

2005-01-27 Thread Peter MacGregor
I produce a number of small booklets - A5 size - and have a program called ClickBook from Blue Squirrel that works out from a Word document which page goes on the back of which at the time or printing. Does anyone have any other similar programs they can recommend? I was going to upgrade but th

Fw: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread rudy
forwarding this from last night, which somehow did not get posted to the list > > My objections are actually along the lines of the fact that tags > > are usually a byproduct of sloppy coding practices. > > counterexample: > > there was an old man from nantucket > who kept his teeth in a bucke

Re: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread rudy
[ out of context ] > because IE won't do sub-lists. sure it will rudy • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To:

Re: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread Joseph Harris
Stephen, Thanks for the demo (and the approval). I was trying to use lists for links in my new site but have abandoned it; the reason is shown by looking at the demo in IE and FF (also because IE won't do sub-lists. I know there are answers but my learning time is now very curtailed. The di

Re: Re[2]: [wdvltalk] Font size in Firefox - drat!

2005-01-27 Thread Joseph Harris
Patrick, I added the doctype yesterday after I realised there wasn't one - I did the site way back, so I can't remember why I didn't put them on. I imagine I was working to 3.2 rather than 4.0. I see all pages with are affected; if you can spend the time to check the code it would be a great

RE: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry

2005-01-27 Thread Trusz, Andrew
-Original Message- From: rudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:07 PM To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] markup for poetry > Nothing wrong with the markup > > unless > the poem > were > written > like this sorry, drew, maybe i'm not gettin