Re: WO in Java or Objective-C...

2006-09-06 Thread Dana Kashubeck
On 9/6/06 12:06 PM, Patrick Middleton wrote: On 6 Sep 2006, at 16:55, Ricardo Strausz wrote: On Sep 5, 2006, at 21:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - many of us have large volumes of ObjC code I'm wondering: how many? Are there really a lot of us out there with large Objective-C frameworks tha

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C...

2006-09-06 Thread Patrick Middleton
On 6 Sep 2006, at 16:55, Ricardo Strausz wrote: On Sep 5, 2006, at 21:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - many of us have large volumes of ObjC code I'm wondering: how many? Are there really a lot of us out there with large Objective-C frameworks that we need to leverage in our WO apps? +1

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C...

2006-09-06 Thread Ricardo Strausz
On Sep 5, 2006, at 21:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - many of us have large volumes of ObjC code I'm wondering: how many? Are there really a lot of us out there with large Objective-C frameworks that we need to leverage in our WO apps? +1 Dino ___

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-09-05 Thread Ashley Aitken
On 06/09/2006, at 2:28 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: Requiring deployment on OS X is a deal breaker for many places. WO does not have that huge of a market share to begin with, why cripple it? To sell Macs, of course. At least that was going to be Apple's reason (I think, eventually) befor

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-09-05 Thread Dana Kashubeck
On 9/5/06 2:07 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Sep 4, 2006, at 1:04 AM, Georg Tuparev wrote: On Aug 28, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: Personally, I feel that given all the improvements (and yes there were some steps backwards) that Apple has made to WO (especially EOF) since WO4.5 and Java'

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-09-05 Thread Chuck Hill
On Sep 5, 2006, at 11:23 AM, King Chung Huang wrote: On Sep 5, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: - there are so many new cocoa technologies that we could use (bindings, core graphics, ...) One of the advantages of WO / Java is that it is cross platform. Now, moving to Eclipse based t

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-09-05 Thread Ken Anderson
On Sep 5, 2006, at 2:23 PM, King Chung Huang wrote: On Sep 5, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: - there are so many new cocoa technologies that we could use (bindings, core graphics, ...) One of the advantages of WO / Java is that it is cross platform. Now, moving to Eclipse based to

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-09-05 Thread Miguel Arroz
Hi! (defclass inYourDreamsComponent (WOComponent) ... ) :) Yours Miguel Arroz On 2006/09/05, at 19:19, Ken Anderson wrote: On Sep 5, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: As an overall more productive environment, yes. As a language and core API, never! AMEN! ___

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-09-05 Thread King Chung Huang
On Sep 5, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: - there are so many new cocoa technologies that we could use (bindings, core graphics, ...) One of the advantages of WO / Java is that it is cross platform. Now, moving to Eclipse based tools, it is more cross platform than it was looking re

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-09-05 Thread Ken Anderson
On Sep 5, 2006, at 2:07 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:As an overall more productive environment, yes.  As a language and core API, never! AMEN! ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-09-05 Thread Chuck Hill
On Sep 4, 2006, at 1:04 AM, Georg Tuparev wrote: On Aug 28, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: Personally, I feel that given all the improvements (and yes there were some steps backwards) that Apple has made to WO (especially EOF) since WO4.5 and Java's enterprise connections (and recent

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-09-04 Thread Lachlan Deck
Hi there, On 04/09/2006, at 6:04 PM, Georg Tuparev wrote: On Aug 28, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: Personally, I feel that given all the improvements (and yes there were some steps backwards) that Apple has made to WO (especially EOF) since WO4.5 and Java's enterprise connections (an

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-09-04 Thread Georg Tuparev
On Aug 28, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: Personally, I feel that given all the improvements (and yes there were some steps backwards) that Apple has made to WO (especially EOF) since WO4.5 and Java's enterprise connections (and recent language improvements) and ability to deploy in S

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C

2006-08-29 Thread YL
ability. So why not both Java and ObjC like WO4.5?            From: "Ricardo Strausz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   To: <webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com>   Subject: Re: WO in Java or Objective-C   Date: Monday, August 28, 2006 11:43 AM      Hola Chuck, Ashley y Dana!      On Aug 28,

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-08-28 Thread Dana Kashubeck
On 8/28/06 11:15 AM, Q wrote: There is always GnustepWeb/SOPE:x and AJRDatabase/GDL2 if you must have that Obj-C goodness. It's not WO, but it's close. Yeah, I'm hopefully going to be testing out SOPE soon. -- - Dana Kashubeck Systems Manager Riemer Report

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C

2006-08-28 Thread Ricardo Strausz
Hola Chuck, Ashley y Dana!On Aug 28, 2006, at 12:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Message: 12 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:10:51 -0700 From: Chuck Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?) On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:04 PM, Ashley

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-08-28 Thread Q
On 28/08/2006, at 10:47 PM, Dana Kashubeck wrote: Chuck Hill wrote: On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:04 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote: WO in Java or Objective-C? What would be most sensible going forward? Given that there is a lot of enterprise Java code out there that WO in Java can and does take adv

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-08-28 Thread Dana Kashubeck
Chuck Hill wrote: On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:04 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote: WO in Java or Objective-C? What would be most sensible going forward? Given that there is a lot of enterprise Java code out there that WO in Java can and does take advantage of (e.g. as it now uses JDBC to replace the nee

Re: WO in Java or Objective-C (Was Re: Is WebObjects 4.5 going open source?)

2006-08-27 Thread Chuck Hill
On Aug 27, 2006, at 9:04 PM, Ashley Aitken wrote: WO in Java or Objective-C? What would be most sensible going forward? Given that there is a lot of enterprise Java code out there that WO in Java can and does take advantage of (e.g. as it now uses JDBC to replace the need for custom adap