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Now added to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2021/29 going out on
Monday.
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Do you know when this will be in production?
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Though T47687 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T47687> is about the edit
tab, if we were planning about doing anything about that.
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@alexhollender I was only thinking of history and talk, so sounds fine by me.
Unless anyone else has a better idea?
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I just realised we //do// show the "Language" header though, just not the
actual language list, and show as if there were no language links from the
talk, edit and history tabs. Maybe that can be confusing?
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@alexhollender I could ask a bit more widely to see if people have more use
cases/opinions, if you'd want that.
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@Ata hade a maybe obscure but still interesting use case.
In most cases, I'd see the use case as not having to take the extra step. A
couple of examples:
- Looking at the article history of an article in German Wikipedia I realise
it's got to be imp
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I'll include this in Tech News too.
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@Masumrezarock100: Yes, the next release, early next week, will check both
projects and not allow users to use the suggested edits functionality anywhere
if they've been blocked on either project. (:
(Other editing will work or not work as it normally does, i
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We take it seriously, of course. We really don't want to add to the burden of
patrollers more than absolutely necessary, though of course all editing comes
with a certain amount of edits that aren't really helpful. No way around that,
unfortunately. (:
T
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@Bencemac As @Dbrant says, we've tried to act on these complaints and
hopefully that will rectify problems like these. But in general, I would
recommend that you treat them as any other edits – it's a tool like any other,
and the suggestion in the name of t
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@Marostegui Thanks! The one additional detail some people keep asking about
where it'd be great if I could give them a good answer would be what in our
setup creates this problem, when they can't remember it happening for other
websites.
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@Marostegui Something that would be helpful would be if we could have a
simplified technical explanation (aimed at fairly non-technical audience)
explaining why we need the read-only periods, so that we could explain to the
communities what's happening and why
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OK.
I've added this to Tech News #36
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2019/36> which will go out on
September 2 (no issue on Monday, all the usual writers are travelling and no
one else picked up the t
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I talked to @Trizek-WMF about banners. Since edits coming from other wikis
will be run after the read-only period which hopefully will be rather short I
don't think we need to do a banner for all Wikimedia wikis, but we'
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So far posted in:
- Wikimedia Space
<https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/very-early-announcement-wikidata-read-only-time-at-the-end-of-the-month/413>
- Tech News <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2019/28>
- Wikidata:Status updates/2019 0
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@hoo Shouldn't happen, as in "won't happen, we're worrying unnecessarily"?
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@Ladsgroup @hoo Either way it'd be great if we could come to a conclusion on
what, so we know what to tell the communities.
(I mean, I'd certainly prefer if pages weren't lost for years in the language
links because of a move during these minutes, b
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Thanks! And since UpdateRepoOnMoveJob doesn't fail and won't try again, the
page move wouldn't actually be reflected in Wikidata? Or am I missing what
function it has?
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Could someone confirm what @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE is saying about the job
retry? (Asking since he's hedging with "unless I'm mistaken".) Would prefer
this to be clear when we communicate this.
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@Multichill: Here's where we posted back when we announced things. Is there
anywhere in particular you'd expect this to be posted where it hasn't been so
we can include it next time?
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/
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OK, thanks, I've rewritten it to something //very// generic (so editors
who've seen it knows it has been fixed) and linked to this discussion for those
who want the details.
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Yes, I'd say it is.
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@Jdlrobson: Is the #user-notice
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/user-notice/> tag mainly because of the
production issues on Wiktionary? If so, is this a "there was a problem but it
was [hopefully] fixed" when this goes out on Monday? Or will it
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I've edited to make it fit with the normal Tech News style; please make sure
the information is still correct. (:
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Yeah, indicating a specific wiki as a source would be a good solution.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T202299EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: JohanCc: TJones, Whatamidoing-WMF, Aklapper, CKoerner_WMF, Trizek
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Would this default to the English meaning, then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barn is about an agricultural building. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barn is about children. If I write https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Barn, how is the software to determine which one to link to
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I've added a short item in Tech/News/2018/02, please make sure it looks OK.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181645EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, JohanCc: Johan, Elitre, gerr
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Sometimes Commons and Wikidata are exceptions to the rule about one or a couple of wikis, as a lot of other wikis depend on them – I've clarified the documentation. For example, this will affect the ability to edit the language links on other wikis, yes?TASK DETAIL
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@Addshore Thanks for adding #user-notice – how would you simplify this for Tech News in a couple of sentences? Asking to make sure I don't misrepresent the effects.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T182322EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/set
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Will fix.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171027EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: jcrespo, JohanCc: Alsee, awight, Matthewrbowker, Noella94, Nirmos, Stryn, Mike_Peel, Capankajsmilyo, Elitre, Risker, Peachey88
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@jcrespo Is this an accurate description right now?
There is a problem with watchlists that show a large number of pages. Until it has been fixed Wikidata edits will not be shown in recent changes on Commons or Russian Wikipedia. If necessary Wikidata edits will be removed
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@IKhitron I started editing but realised I'm not entirely sure I'd properly reflect what you mean. Could you edit the page? I can fix it up later.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T170039EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/sett
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Something like this?
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mw.wikibase.entity.lua_bug_fix_instructions
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In T170039#3545689, @IKhitron wrote:
Well, three hours later, both lists are empty. I think we have a jackpot.
Should we publish in #user-notice some recommendations for emptying of each of two lists? I believe we must do this. Guys? @Johan?
How would you phrase it?TASK
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What more exactly does this mean for editors? What is the enhanced changes format more specifically?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46874EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: matej_suchanek, JohanCc: Johan
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This has been marked for inclusion in Tech News. How would you phrase a short, very simple item describing the changes and how they affect users?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152780EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel
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This has been marked for inclusion in Tech News and is resolved, but these notifications are not live in production yet, right? I just tested to see if I would trigger one and couldn't (letting a different than the one which created the page connect it to Wikidata)
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Thanks for the detailed information with date and link. Much appreciated!
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In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73685#1725269, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
> It'll happen on the 20th of November.
Just to make sure, it has been moved one month since
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata/2015-September/007106.html (was
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What's the timeline for this?
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