Lea_Lacroix_WMDE added a comment.
Hello to all the subscribers of this task,
I'd like to raise awareness on this consultation about issues encountered when requesting new languages in Wikidata. Since this is directly connected to the process that currently goes through creating subtasks here, I tho
Nikki added a comment.
@Amire80 Would all of what Wikidata wants (see previous comment) be allowed in the language-data database?
@jhsoby I see you're also interested in using the language-data database instead, what do you think about the different types of codes in my previous comment?TASK DETAI
Nikki added a comment.
In T144272#4399346, @Amire80 wrote:
Now that I think of it, I'm not sure whether they are written anywhere :)
But a valid ISO 639 3 code is definitely a criterion. Is there anything else that Wikidata requires?
Wikidata's own criteria (from https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/H
Amire80 added a comment.
In T144272#4399315, @Nikki wrote:
In T144272#4399198, @Amire80 wrote:
The criteria for adding a language to this database are pretty much the same as the general Wikimedia criteria. If anybody finds a discrepancy in the criteria, let me know.
What are the general Wikime
Nikki added a comment.
In T144272#4399198, @Amire80 wrote:
The criteria for adding a language to this database are pretty much the same as the general Wikimedia criteria. If anybody finds a discrepancy in the criteria, let me know.
What are the general Wikimedia criteria?TASK DETAILhttps://phabr
Amire80 added a comment.
As I suggested above, I recommend reusing the language-data database for this. It is also used in the UniversalLanguageSelector, which is a dependency for Wikibase, so it's safe to assume that it's installed on Wikidata.
The criteria for adding a language to this database
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.
This is not about new languages for labels. This ticket and its subtickets are (almost all) explicitly about new languages for monolingual text values in statements. And Léa and I get asked a lot why this is being held up and we don't have a good answer. I don't wan
GerardM added a comment.
Hoi,
In the past we have been where we are now with Wikidata and new language
codes with new Wikipedias. The result was mayhem, and everything was just
as the "community" decided. The result is the many Wikipedias that have
no community. As a result the Language Committee
satdeep_gill added a comment.
In T144272#3556454, @GerardM wrote:
Hoi,
The consideration has been only is it a valid code. The question asked is a
different one. What is the point to all these codes that probably do not
bring anything to Wikidata.
Thanks,
GerardM
I believe we should let the
GerardM added a comment.
Hoi,
What I find is totally unreadable.
Thanks,
GerardMTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144272EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: GerardMCc: C933103, Nikerabbit, Mbch331, Lydia_Pintscher, Zoranzoki21, Nikki, A
Zoranzoki21 added a comment.
Can any from langcom respond on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/374052/?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144272EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Zoranzoki21Cc: C933103, Nikerabbit, Mbch331, Lydia_Pints
C933103 added a comment.
Are you implying that those monolingual language code I'm submitting does not represent anything useful? nan/cdo/hak-Hant/hans are language-script combinations being used to write wikipedia articles, and vi-hani, ko-kore, ja-Kyujitai are used to name people and things in re
GerardM added a comment.
I think that we should stop with these stamp collections there is no argument why we want to do this, we have seen that the meaning given often differs substantially from what the standard is. It makes more sense to study the effect of the introduction of Wiktionary content
GerardM added a comment.
Hoi,
The consideration has been only is it a valid code. The question asked is a
different one. What is the point to all these codes that probably do not
bring anything to Wikidata.
Thanks,
GerardMTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144272EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps:/
Zoranzoki21 added a comment.
Patch for assigned requests to me: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/374052/TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144272EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Zoranzoki21Cc: Zoranzoki21, Nikki, Amire80, jhsoby, Li
GerardM added a comment.
Hoi,
I asked in the past why codes were added. In principle, we could include
them all but there is no clarity why codes are proposed. As a consequence I
lost interest.
So I agree with Amir that some sanity would be in order.
Thanks,
GerardMTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.
Amire80 added a comment.
OK, I still have my question (T144272#3322282): Why are languages still added in PHP code, such as https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/370308/2/repo/includes/WikibaseRepo.php ?
This is data. This is not supposed to be code. It's a really bad practice. We already have too ma
Nikki added a comment.
In T144272#3322282, @Amire80 wrote:
I have a general question here: Are these languages codes provided in WikibaseRepo.php in addition to anything?
I mean, where does the basic list come from? Core Names.php? ULS's langdb? A wikidata.org query? A defined subset of CLDR? Som
Amire80 added a comment.
I have a general question here: Are these languages codes provided in WikibaseRepo.php in addition to anything?
I mean, where does the basic list come from? Core Names.php? ULS's langdb? A wikidata.org query? A defined subset of CLDR? Something else?
I couldn't find an an
GerardM added a comment.
Hoi,
First there has to be agreement on the use of codes like this in the
language committee.
Thanks,
GerardMTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144272EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: GerardMCc: jhsoby, Liuxin
Esc3300 added a comment.
wrong task and off topicTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144272EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Esc3300Cc: matej_suchanek, jhsoby, Liuxinyu970226, GerardM, thiemowmde, Aklapper, Esc3300, mschwarzer, D3r1ck01
matej_suchanek added a comment.
I think you answered to a wrong task, @GerardM.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144272EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: matej_suchanekCc: matej_suchanek, jhsoby, Liuxinyu970226, GerardM, thiemowmde, Ak
GerardM added a comment.
Hoi,
This is not a language with an ISO-639-3 code and therefore it should not
be created.
Thanks,
GerardMTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144272EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: GerardMCc: jhsoby, Liuxinyu9
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