Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

2009-07-26 Thread Dan Dascalescu
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 06:23, wrote: > Would he, his heirs, or his estate object if the photo of the poem was > modified to be used in a fast-food ad or for a hate group? What does this have to do with the poem being engraved verbatim in a public monument? > And while en.wiki does allow fair u

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Nature of "Facts"

2009-07-26 Thread Ray Saintonge
David Gerard wrote: > 2009/7/25 Apoc 2400 : > >> This is not published by the "real" Merriam–Webster, but Icon Group >> International. That is company that computer generate enourmous numbers of >> useless books that fill up Google Books. These "Webster’s Quotations, Facts >> and Phrases" books

[WikiEN-l] When copyright paranoia isn't

2009-07-26 Thread Elias Friedman
All over a children's story statue... http://bit.ly/hZsWF -- Sent from my mobile device Elias Friedman A.S., EMT-P ⚕ אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipo...@gmail.com http://elipongo.blogspot.com/ ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubs

Re: [WikiEN-l] Brand Republic: BBC Radio 4 launches Wikipedia parody

2009-07-26 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/26 Daniel R. Tobias : > The Wikipedia it's parodying seems to be an alternate-universe one > which has ads, corporate sponsors, and intrusive offers to get its > readers to purchase enhanced access levels. I felt that was a minor detail for dramatic license. They did after all give it a d

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Watchlistr.com, an outside site that asks for Wikimedia passwords

2009-07-26 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:56:32 +0100, David Gerard wrote: > > From: Sage Ross > > Date: 2009/7/22 > > Subject: [Wikitech-l] Watchlistr.com, an outside site that asks for > > Wikimedia passwords > > To: wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > I'm not sure what to do about this; it seems like a good id

[WikiEN-l] Brand Republic: BBC Radio 4 launches Wikipedia parody

2009-07-26 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:52:51 +0100, David Gerard wrote: > http://www.brandrepublic.com/News/922216/BBC-Radio-4-launches-Wikipedia-parody/ > > "LONDON - BBC Radio 4 is launching a "broadwebcasting" show parodying > the internet by mocking pop-ups, search boxes and other aspects of > online activit

Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation

2009-07-26 Thread stevertigo
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM, David Gerard wrote: > 2009/7/26 stevertigo : > >> Well, you may be right about that, in a certain way. But nevertheless >> I did get Cary to finally respond, and, according to his response - > He's at this moment in NYT for the wiki conference. Don't expect huge >

Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation

2009-07-26 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/26 stevertigo : > Well, you may be right about that, in a certain way. But nevertheless > I did get Cary to finally respond, and, according to his response - > mostly decrying the fact that I was making him look a bit too > administrative - we now have exactly one more day to rally support

Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation

2009-07-26 Thread stevertigo
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Fred Bauder wrote: > I think, although I was his ally in the cause, creating a dispute > resolution mailing list, that it is quite clear what the reason for > blocking is -- continuing repeatedly to post on that subject when he was > told it was an inappropriate to

Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation

2009-07-26 Thread stevertigo
Nathan wrote: > Are you sure you were moderated? Austin only mentioned that the thread was > killfiled. Yeah, well. I could not post that ASCII-art nude of myself to the list, so I guess I was blockified, as well. -Steven ___ WikiEN-l mailing list W

Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation

2009-07-26 Thread stevertigo
Thomas Dalton wrote: > 2009/7/26 stevertigo : >> I have been blocked from posting to foundation-l. No explanation has >> been given. It is my understanding that when individuals are blocked >> from an open list, the list moderator must give some kind of >> explanation. In an open discussion forum,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation

2009-07-26 Thread Nathan
Are you sure you were moderated? Austin only mentioned that the thread was killfiled. Nathan ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation

2009-07-26 Thread Fred Bauder
> 2009/7/26 stevertigo : >> I have been blocked from posting to foundation-l. No explanation has >> been given. It is my understanding that when individuals are blocked >> from an open list, the list moderator must give some kind of >> explanation. In an open discussion forum, it is appropriate to

Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking / moderation

2009-07-26 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/7/26 stevertigo : > I have been blocked from posting to foundation-l. No explanation has > been given. It is my understanding that when individuals are blocked > from an open list, the list moderator must give some kind of > explanation. In an open discussion forum, it is appropriate to give >

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

2009-07-26 Thread Charles Matthews
The Cunctator wrote: > Seriously?? Are you arguing this kind of article shouldn't be in Wikipedia? > Sheesh. > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 8:21 AM, David Gerard wrote: > > >> Point them at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_%28dog%29 >> >> >> The argument worth having is that reliable sources a

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

2009-07-26 Thread elipongo
It has to do with license compatibility - Commons has a strict policy that all material be available under a free license that includes commercial use. Would he, his heirs, or his estate object if the photo of the poem was modified to be used in a fast-food ad or for a hate group? And while en.

Re: [WikiEN-l] The Nature of "Facts"

2009-07-26 Thread David Gerard
2009/7/25 Apoc 2400 : > This is not published by the "real" Merriam–Webster, but Icon Group > International. That is company that computer generate enourmous numbers of > useless books that fill up Google Books. These "Webster’s Quotations, Facts > and Phrases" books that are made from excerpts of

Re: [WikiEN-l] ANI curiosity

2009-07-26 Thread FT2
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Al Tally wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:43 PM, FT2 wrote: > > > Rename to "Wikipedia:Administrator help requests" or "Requests for > > Administrator assistance"? > > > > Sometimes a name can have an effect. > > > > FT2 > > > > I have never really liked the str

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

2009-07-26 Thread James Farrar
2009/7/25 David Gerard : > My point is that despite media publicity about "deletionists" and > people on the fringes of Wikipedia getting annoyed at not being > considered article-worthy ... we still include a wider range of stuff > than (I think) any general encyclopedia ever before us, and no-on

Re: [WikiEN-l] If anyone ever says Wikipedia is too deletionist

2009-07-26 Thread Dan Dascalescu
> No, it just pushed my personal "wtf" button Here's something that pushed my WTF button: Why was a photograph of a public monument of Martin Niemoeller's poem "First they came", removed from Wikipedia? Here is a small version of the photograph: http://www.oicu2.com/afc/Martin_Niemoeller.jpg An