Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Stephen Bain
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Javier Bassi wrote: > A blackout with JavaScript? -_- Yes. And don't tell anyone they can avoid the blackout by hitting ESC pressing 'stop' in their browser before onLoad() triggers. -- Stephen Bain stephen.b...@gmail.com ___

[WikiEN-l] Blackout notice errors

2012-01-17 Thread David Levy
[crossposted to Foundation-l and WikiEN-l] Can someone please correct the following errors in the English Wikipedia's blackout notice? internet -> Internet zip code -> ZIP code Thanks! (I apologize if this message appears twice. My fist attempt appeared unsuccessful.) David Levy

[WikiEN-l] Blackout notice errors

2012-01-17 Thread David Levy
[crossposted to Foundation-l and WikiEN-l] Can someone please correct the following errors in the English Wikipedia's blackout notice? internet -> Internet zip code -> ZIP code Thanks! David Levy ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Javier Bassi
A blackout with JavaScript? -_- ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Bob the Wikipedian
I understand Conservapedia could use a fresh revision of the "Dinosaur" article... Maybe I'll do that tomorrow. Bob On 1/17/2012 6:37 PM, David Carson wrote: > Personally I intend to get all of my information for the day from > Conservapedia. So by the end of the day I expect I'll be ready to ta

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread David Carson
Personally I intend to get all of my information for the day from Conservapedia. So by the end of the day I expect I'll be ready to take to the streets _defending_ SOPA. Cheers, David... On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 4:09 AM, David Gerard wrote: > Citizendium will *clean up* tomorrow. > > __

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Ian Woollard
Yes, I looked into it, and apparently being stupid* is popular. *- defined as voting for things that are probably not in your own best interests On 17 January 2012 22:48, Javier Bassi wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Ian Woollard > wrote: > > Am I correct in thinking that the english

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Javier Bassi
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: > Am I correct in thinking that the english wikipedia is going to be blocked > for the whole world, rather than just a technical block all non admins in > the US, even though this is a US law that the rest of the world have > practically no cont

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Ian Woollard
Am I correct in thinking that the english wikipedia is going to be blocked for the whole world, rather than just a technical block all non admins in the US, even though this is a US law that the rest of the world have practically no control over? On 17 January 2012 20:16, Erik Moeller wrote: > W

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Erik Moeller
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM, priyank bagrecha wrote: > Just curious to know, when we say that english wikipedia will be having a > blackout, does that also include the english wikipedia api? No, except for write access. We'll post a technical FAQ soon with some more info. Erik -- Erik Mö

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread priyank bagrecha
Just curious to know, when we say that english wikipedia will be having a blackout, does that also include the english wikipedia api? Thanks Priyank On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:00 AM, K. Peachey wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Katie Chan wrote: > > One can't really complain about n

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and political statements

2012-01-17 Thread Fajro
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Nathan wrote: > There are so many good candidates, in fact, we will need some way of > narrowing them down. A SOPA protest fits a somewhat narrow range - a United > States law that could effect a Wikimedia project. All that prevents us from sharing knowledge should be proteste

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and political statements

2012-01-17 Thread Nathan
> > I can.  You're displaying the literal-mindedness that's too common > on Wikipedia: everything has to be reduced down to a rule which something > either passes or fails and there's no such thing as nuance.  The correct > answer is that while many things affect Wikipedia, not everything affects >

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Tom Morris
On 17 January 2012 17:09, David Gerard wrote: > Citizendium will *clean up* tomorrow. > No, Simple English Wikipedia will. It's like Citizendium, but with three times as many articles and with a much better homeopathy article. ;-) -- Tom Morris

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Citizendium will *clean up* tomorrow. I rather doubt they will. Who has heard of them? And they'd better hope they don't because any tiny fraction of En's traffic will knock them offline, further poisoning what little reputation it has left.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and political statements

2012-01-17 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Nathan wrote: > There are so many good candidates, in fact, we will need some way of > narrowing them down. A SOPA protest fits a somewhat narrow range - a United > States law that could effect a Wikimedia project. There you go. I don't see the point of coming up with a whole

[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and political statements

2012-01-17 Thread Nathan
Now that we have taken the necessary first step to regard the English Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects as high-profile platforms for political statements, we ought to consider what other critical humanitarian problems we could use our considerable visibility and reputation to address. We cou

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > I find it highly unlikely that "most" people have blocked them. You > don't strengthen your argument by using hyperbole. I based that comment it on the few hundred "Omg how do we get rid of these notices" on the notice boards every time the

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Elias Friedman
On Jan 17, 2012 6:31 AM, "Andrew Gray" wrote: > > The second RFC was advertised with a central notice active over the > past three days for all readers: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:CentralNotice&method=listNoticeDetail¬ice=enWP+SOPA+RfC > Well that explains why I didn'

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 January 2012 13:00, K. Peachey wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Katie Chan wrote: >> One can't really complain about not being inform about things if they >> choose to block out one of the major channel of public notice > I'm not going to start the whole debate on If CN is a n

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Katie Chan wrote: > One can't really complain about not being inform about things if they > choose to block out one of the major channel of public notice I'm not going to start the whole debate on If CN is a notice service, what it should be used for, etc disc

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Katie Chan
On 17/01/2012 12:19, K. Peachey wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Thomas Dalton > wrote: >> Really, if it's on Central Notice, it doesn't need to be anywhere >> else. It was a little difficult to miss. > Since a large majority of users block CN messages because of the large > amount of w

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: > Really, if it's on Central Notice, it doesn't need to be anywhere > else. It was a little difficult to miss. Since a large majority of users block CN messages because of the large amount of what some would call spam in them, Yes it does need

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 January 2012 11:29, Andrew Gray wrote: > The one omission there other than the mailing list seems to have been > the Village Pumps; the first RFC was hosted on VP/Proposals, but > spamming a notice for the second RFC to the others might have been > worthwhile. Something to add to the list fo

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Andrew Gray
On 17 January 2012 07:52, Elias Friedman wrote: > I am dismayed that such a radical undertaking wasn't mentioned on this > list, nor announced by a site banner for logged in users, nor even > canvassed out to user talk pages. This is especially in light of the short > time frame mentioned in the

[WikiEN-l] SOPA blackout: Please test US rep. lookup feature

2012-01-17 Thread Erik Moeller
We've built a small feature for US citizens that lets you look up your representatives. If you can help, please test it here: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CongressLookup?zip= Replace with a ZIP code, e.g. 90210: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CongressLookup?zip=90210 We're onl

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 January 2012 07:52, Elias Friedman wrote: > On Jan 17, 2012 2:24 AM, "Javier Bassi" wrote: >> Discussion on this began on December 10 on Jimbo's talk page. > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=465086832 > Like I pay attention to the three-ring

Re: [WikiEN-l] English Wikipedia blackout

2012-01-17 Thread Chris Grant
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Elias Friedman wrote: > nor announced by a site banner for logged in users > There was one. Although, I didn't see it either (something to do with my browser setup, the banner displayed in Firefox, but not Opera; my best guess is it was something to do with one o