Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-18 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Fri, 18 May 2012 14:52:28 -0600 James Eder wrote: > > With the current system, rating is open to ambiguity and misuse. > Users often use it as an indicator of how much they like the > application or how excited they are that it works with Wine. Yes. > If we > generate the rating for them

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-18 Thread James Eder
IMO, AppDB should gather enough information form the user to assign the rating automatically. For example, answering "no" for "Installs?" should automatically lower the rating. "Runs?" might be a bit too is a bit too ambiguous. More over, the ratings should not be something you have to click on

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-17 Thread Alexey Loukianov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 17.05.2012 17:05, Jari Vetoniemi wrote: > This is unless the appdb will allow us to filter out test results that were > either done with patched wine, or some unsupported variant like POL or > such. > That's is exactly the same vision as mine: AppDB

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-17 Thread Alexey Loukianov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 17.05.2012 11:56, Frédéric Delanoy wrote: > If this patch isn't accepted, I wonder why some entries like those for > Diablo III were accepted, since some indicate you need to apply some > patches. e.g. > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sCla

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-17 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Thu, 17 May 2012 16:05:35 +0300 Jari Vetoniemi wrote: > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24699&iTestingId=70104 > The above example shows only the results from, > unpatched wine. While the howto section informs > about patch that can potentially solve all issues, >

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-17 Thread Jari Vetoniemi
I think the test results should be only from vanilla wine. While the additional information which can be provided, should be used to inform about patches and their affection to the particular application with wine. This is unless the appdb will allow us to filter out test results that were either

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-17 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Thu, 17 May 2012 09:56:17 +0200 Frédéric Delanoy wrote: > > If this patch isn't accepted, I wonder why some entries like those for > Diablo III were accepted, since some indicate you need to apply some > patches. > e.g. > http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25953&iTe

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-17 Thread K.King
<< A "runs well with patched wine" checkbox might be useful, but would be very confusing. Maybe if it forced the rating to be garbage that would be ok. >> If it was possible my preference would be to be able to see separate rating per vanilla and per non vanilla. The per vanilla should be first

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-17 Thread Frédéric Delanoy
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Rosanne DiMesio wrote: > On Wed, 16 May 2012 13:16:11 -0700 > Dan Kegel wrote: > >> >> Really?  IMHO they should still be silver.  Patches are very hard for the >> average user to deploy without a third party front end like POL, >> and appdb is not about POL. >>

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-16 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Wed, 16 May 2012 15:55:37 -0500 Austin English wrote: > > Some of the more popular patches are available in PPA's, and I'd be > willing to bet that many of the less tech savvy users are running > Ubuntu and can figure out how to add a PPA. > They're also available through PlayOnLinux. Do you

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-16 Thread Dan Kegel
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Alexey Loukianov wrote: >> Really?  IMHO they should still be silver.  Patches are very hard for the >> average user to deploy without a third party front end like POL, and appdb >> is not about POL. - Dan > > I thinks that using silver won't be correct here either

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-16 Thread Austin English
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Rosanne DiMesio wrote: > On Wed, 16 May 2012 13:16:11 -0700 > Dan Kegel wrote: > >> >> Really?  IMHO they should still be silver.  Patches are very hard for the >> average user to deploy without a third party front end like POL, >> and appdb is not about POL. >> >

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-16 Thread Alexey Loukianov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 17.05.2012 00:16, Dan Kegel wrote: > Frédéric Delanoy wrote: -Application works flawlessly with some DLL > overrides, other settings or third party software. +Application works > flawlessly with some DLL overrides, some patches applied, other settings

Re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-16 Thread Rosanne DiMesio
On Wed, 16 May 2012 13:16:11 -0700 Dan Kegel wrote: > > Really? IMHO they should still be silver. Patches are very hard for the > average user to deploy without a third party front end like POL, > and appdb is not about POL. > AppDB test reports are supposed to reflect the performance of the W

re: [appdb] Applications working flawlessly using patched wine should be rated Gold

2012-05-16 Thread Dan Kegel
Frédéric Delanoy wrote: -Application works flawlessly with some DLL overrides, other settings or third party software. +Application works flawlessly with some DLL overrides, some patches applied, other settings or third party software. Really? IMHO they should still be silver. Patches are very h