Re: [zfs-discuss] [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool lost, and no pools available?

2011-05-24 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> > I just attended this HTC conference and had a chat with a guy from > > UiO (university of oslo) about ZFS. He claimed Solaris/OI will die > > silently if a single pool fails. I have seen similar earlier, then > > due to a bug in ZFS (two drives lost in a RAIDz2, spares taking > > over, resilver

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bad pool...

2011-05-24 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> > The system became non-responsible after two drives was lost, and > > replaced with spares, in that VDEV. That bug has been filed and > > acknowleged. Take a RAIDz2 with two spares and remove a drive from > > the pool, let it resilver to a spare, remove another, wait until it > > resilvers again

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Richard Elling
On May 24, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Brandon High wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Peter Jeremy > wrote: >> I believe the various OSS projects that use ZFS have formed a working >> group to co-ordinate ZFS amongst themselves. I don't know if Oracle >> was invited to join (though given the way O

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > I believe the various OSS projects that use ZFS have formed a working > group to co-ordinate ZFS amongst themselves.  I don't know if Oracle > was invited to join (though given the way Oracle has behaved in all Richard would probably know for

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2011-May-25 03:49:43 +0800, Brandon High wrote: >... unless Oracle's zpool v30 is different than Nexenta's v30. This would be unfortunate but no worse than the current situation with UFS - Solaris, *BSD and HP Tru64 all have native UFS filesystems, all of which are incompatible. I believe the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Same device node appearing twice in same mirror; one faulted, one not...

2011-05-24 Thread Alex Dolski
Sure enough Cindy, the eSATA cables had been crossed. I exported, powered off, reversed the cables, booted, imported, and the pool is currently resilvering with both c5t0d0 & c5t1d0 present in the mirror. :) Thank you!! Alex On May 24, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Cindy Swearingen wrote: > Hi Alex, >

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread LaoTsao
Well With various fock of opensource project E.g. Zfs, opensolaris, openindina etc there are all different There are not guarantee to be compatible Sent from my iPad Hung-Sheng Tsao ( LaoTsao) Ph.D On May 24, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Ian Collins wrote: > On 05/25/11 07:49 AM, Brandon High wrote: >> O

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Hans Rattink
Hi Brandon, Thanks for the details. Sounds to me like Nexenta is in the lead! Kind regards, Hans Rattink 2011/5/24 Richard Elling > On May 24, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Brandon High wrote: > > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Richard Elling > > wrote: > >> There are many ZFS implementations,

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Ian Collins
On 05/25/11 07:49 AM, Brandon High wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Richard Elling wrote: There are many ZFS implementations, each evolving as the contributors desire. Diversity and innovation is a good thing. ... unless Oracle's zpool v30 is different than Nexenta's v30. That coul

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Richard Elling
On May 24, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Brandon High wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Richard Elling > wrote: >> There are many ZFS implementations, each evolving as the contributors desire. >> Diversity and innovation is a good thing. > > ... unless Oracle's zpool v30 is different than Nexenta'

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Hans Rattink
Thanks all, this cleared up some grey details for me! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Brandon High
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Richard Elling wrote: > There are many ZFS implementations, each evolving as the contributors desire. > Diversity and innovation is a good thing. ... unless Oracle's zpool v30 is different than Nexenta's v30. -B -- Brandon High : bh...@freaks.com _

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Richard Elling
On May 24, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Hans Rattink wrote: > Hi Erik and Kebabber, > > Thanks for your answers. Do i summarize it right saying: the best conclusion > would be then that Nexenta has it's own version of ZFS and has nothing to > fear of Oracle other ZFS-developpers but that it's uncertain w

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Hung-ShengTsao (Lao Tsao) Ph.D.
yes IMHO, oracle and nexenta are target different customer On 5/24/2011 3:30 PM, Hans Rattink wrote: IMHO, oracle would prefer customer go with ZFS appliance with added WebGUI and all the extra support like Analytics, L2ARc and ZIL with SSD etc Last week i've seen mirrored ZIL upon ZEUS SSD i

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Hans Rattink
> IMHO, oracle would prefer customer go with ZFS > appliance with added > WebGUI and all the extra support like Analytics, > L2ARc and ZIL with SSD etc Last week i've seen mirrored ZIL upon ZEUS SSD in a Boston NexentaStor solution. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org __

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bad pool...

2011-05-24 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
> > Shouldn't ZFS detach these automatically? It has done so earlier... > It is not supposed to- at least that I recall. Earlier replaces have gone well. One thing is spares, which I can understand somewhat, but dead drives should definetely be tossed off when replaced Vennlige hilsener / Best r

Re: [zfs-discuss] [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool lost, and no pools available?

2011-05-24 Thread Albert Lee
man zpool /failmode -Albert On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: > Hi all > > I just attended this HTC conference and had a chat with a guy from UiO > (university of oslo) about ZFS. He claimed Solaris/OI will die silently if a > single pool fails. I have seen similar

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Hung-ShengTsao (Lao Tsao) Ph.D.
IMHO, oracle would prefer customer go with ZFS appliance with added WebGUI and all the extra support like Analytics, L2ARc and ZIL with SSD etc On 5/24/2011 2:30 PM, Hans Rattink wrote: Hi Erik and Kebabber, Thanks for your answers. Do i summarize it right saying: the best conclusion would

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Hans Rattink
Hi Erik and Kebabber, Thanks for your answers. Do i summarize it right saying: the best conclusion would be then that Nexenta has it's own version of ZFS and has nothing to fear of Oracle other ZFS-developpers but that it's uncertain what NetApp might come up with as the details aren't publishe

[zfs-discuss] zpool lost, and no pools available?

2011-05-24 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
Hi all I just attended this HTC conference and had a chat with a guy from UiO (university of oslo) about ZFS. He claimed Solaris/OI will die silently if a single pool fails. I have seen similar earlier, then due to a bug in ZFS (two drives lost in a RAIDz2, spares taking over, resilvering and t

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Erik Trimble
On 5/24/2011 8:28 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote: The netapp lawsuit is solved. No conflicts there. Regarding ZFS, it is open under CDDL license. The leaked source code that is already open is open. Nexenta is using the open sourced version of ZFS. Oracle might close future ZFS versions, but Nexenta's

Re: [zfs-discuss] Same device node appearing twice in same mirror; one faulted, one not...

2011-05-24 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Alex, If the hardware and cables were moved around then this is probably the root cause of your problem. You should see if you can move the devices/cabling back to what they were before the move. The zpool history output provides the original device name, which isn't c5t1d0, either: # zpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] Bad pool...

2011-05-24 Thread Donald Stahl
> Two drives have been resilvered, but the old drives still stick. The drive > that has died still hasn't been taken over by a spare, although the two > spares show up as AVAIL. For the one that hasn't been replaced try doing: zpool replace dbpool c8t24d0 c4t43d0 For the two that have already be

[zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Hans Rattink
I have a more generall question about intellectual rights around ZFS, when taking a look at the storage solution NexentaStor. Perhaps not necessary to mention, but to be complete: NexentaStor has created a Open Source SAN solution that runs on commodity hardware. Compellent for example has a NA

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS, Oracle and Nexenta

2011-05-24 Thread Orvar Korvar
The netapp lawsuit is solved. No conflicts there. Regarding ZFS, it is open under CDDL license. The leaked source code that is already open is open. Nexenta is using the open sourced version of ZFS. Oracle might close future ZFS versions, but Nexenta's ZFS is open and can not be closed. -- Thi

Re: [zfs-discuss] ndmp?

2011-05-24 Thread Hung-ShengTsao (Lao Tsao) Ph.D.
On 5/24/2011 9:37 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: When I search around, I see that nexenta has ndmp, and solaris 10 does not, and there was at least some talk about supporting ndmp in opensolaris ... So ... Is ndmp present in solaris 11 express? Is it an installable 3rd party package? How

Re: [zfs-discuss] ndmp?

2011-05-24 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 05/24/11 14:37, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: When I search around, I see that nexenta has ndmp, and solaris 10 does not, and there was at least some talk about supporting ndmp in opensolaris ... So ... Is ndmp present in solaris 11 express? Is it an installable 3rd party package? How would you go

[zfs-discuss] ndmp?

2011-05-24 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
When I search around, I see that nexenta has ndmp, and solaris 10 does not, and there was at least some talk about supporting ndmp in opensolaris ... So ... Is ndmp present in solaris 11 express? Is it an installable 3rd party package? How would you go about supporting ndmp if you wanted to?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Monitoring disk seeks

2011-05-24 Thread Sašo Kiselkov
On 05/24/2011 03:08 PM, a.sm...@ukgrid.net wrote: > Hi, > > see the seeksize script on this URL: > > http://prefetch.net/articles/solaris.dtracetopten.html > > Not used it but looks neat! > > cheers Andy. I already did and it does the job just fine. Thank you for your kind suggestion. BR, -

Re: [zfs-discuss] Monitoring disk seeks

2011-05-24 Thread a . smith
Hi, see the seeksize script on this URL: http://prefetch.net/articles/solaris.dtracetopten.html Not used it but looks neat! cheers Andy. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-di

[zfs-discuss] Bad pool...

2011-05-24 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
Hi all I have a rather large pool that has been a bit troublesome. We've lost some drives (WD Black), and though that should work out well, I now have a pool that doesn't look too healthy. http://paste.ubuntu.com/611973/ Two drives have been resilvered, but the old drives still stick. The driv