Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-28 Thread Eric D. Mudama
On Sun, Mar 28 at 16:55, James Van Artsdalen wrote: * SII3132-based PCIe X1 SATA card (2 ports) This chip is slow. PCIe cards based on the Silicon Image 3124 are much faster, peaking around 1 GB/sec aggregate throughput. However, the 3124 is a PCI-X chip and hence is used behind an Intel PCI

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-28 Thread James Van Artsdalen
> * SII3132-based PCIe X1 SATA card (2 ports) This chip is slow. PCIe cards based on the Silicon Image 3124 are much faster, peaking around 1 GB/sec aggregate throughput. However, the 3124 is a PCI-X chip and hence is used behind an Intel PCI serial-to-parallel bridge for PCIe applications: th

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-23 Thread Khyron
Heh. The original definition of "I" was inexpensive. Was never meant to be "independent". Guess that changed by vendors. The idea all along was to take inexpensive hardware and use software to turn it into a reliable system. http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=50214 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~ga

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-22 Thread Svein Skogen
On 22.03.2010 16:24, Cooper Hubbell wrote: I've moved to 7200RPM 2.5" laptop drives over 3.5" drives, for a combination of reasons: lower-power, better performance than a comparable sized 3.5" drives, and generally lower-capacities meaning resilver times are smaller. They're a bit more $/GB, but

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-22 Thread Erik Trimble
Cooper Hubbell wrote: Regarding the 2.5" laptop drives, do the inherent error detection properties of ZFS subdue any concerns over a laptop drive's higher bit error rate or rated MTBF? I've been reading about OpenSolaris and ZFS for several months now and am incredibly intrigued, but have yet t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-22 Thread Cooper Hubbell
> I've moved to 7200RPM 2.5" laptop drives over 3.5" > drives, for a > combination of reasons: lower-power, better > performance than a > comparable sized 3.5" drives, and generally > lower-capacities meaning > resilver times are smaller. They're a bit more $/GB, > but not a lot. > If you can s

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-21 Thread Daniel Carosone
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 09:50:10PM -0700, Erik Trimble wrote: > Nah, the 8x2.5"-in-2 are $220, while the 5x3.5"-in-3 are $120. And they have a sas expander inside, unlike every other variant of these I've seen so far. Cabling mess win. -- Dan. pgpNzVMcKh5yn.pgp Description: PGP signature ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-20 Thread Erik Trimble
Nah, the 8x2.5"-in-2 are $220, while the 5x3.5"-in-3 are $120. You can get 4x3.5"-in-3 for $100, 3x3.5"-in-2 for $80, and even 4x2.5"-in-1 for $65. ( http://www.addonics.com/products/raid_system/ae4rcs25nsa.asp ) The Cool Master thing you linked to isn't a Hot Swap module. It does 4-in-3, b

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-20 Thread Ethan
Whoops, Erik's links show I was wrong about my first point. Though those 5-in-3s are five times as expensive as the 4-in-3. On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 22:46, Ethan wrote: > I don't think you can fit five 3.5" drives in 3 x 5.25", but I have a > number of coolermaster 4-in-3 modules, I recommend the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-20 Thread Ethan
I don't think you can fit five 3.5" drives in 3 x 5.25", but I have a number of coolermaster 4-in-3 modules, I recommend them: http://www.amazon.com/-/dp/B00129CDGC/ On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 20:23, Geoff wrote: > Thanks for your review! My SiI3114 isn't recognizing drives in Opensolaris > so I'v

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-20 Thread Erik Trimble
Geoff wrote: Thanks for your review! My SiI3114 isn't recognizing drives in Opensolaris so I've been looking for a replacement. This card seems perfect so I ordered one last night. Can anyone recommend a cheap 3 x 5.25 ---> 5 3.5 enclosure I could use with this card? The extra ports necess

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-20 Thread Geoff
Thanks for your review! My SiI3114 isn't recognizing drives in Opensolaris so I've been looking for a replacement. This card seems perfect so I ordered one last night. Can anyone recommend a cheap 3 x 5.25 ---> 5 3.5 enclosure I could use with this card? The extra ports necessitate more driv

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-14 Thread Tim Cook
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Svein Skogen wrote: > How does it fare, with regards to BUG ID 689477? > > http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6894775 > > //Svein > > It fairs identically, it's literally the exact same card OEM'd by Intel and sold for less money. Same dr

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-14 Thread Svein Skogen
How does it fare, with regards to BUG ID 689477? http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6894775 //Svein -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-12 Thread Marc Bevand
Russ Price fubegra.net> writes: > > > Did you enable AHCI mode on _every_ SATA controller? > > > > I have the exact opposite experience with 2 of your 3 > > types of controllers. > > It wasn't possible to do so, and that also made me think that a real HBA would work better. First off, with the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-12 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Dedhi Sujatmiko wrote: As a user of el-cheapo US$18 SIL3114, I managed to make the system freeze continuously when one of SATA cable got disconnected. I am using 8 disks RAIDZ2 driven by 2 x SIL3114 System is still able to answer the ping, but SSH and console are no longer responsive, obviously

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-12 Thread Russ Price
> Did you enable AHCI mode on _every_ SATA controller? > > I have the exact opposite experience with 2 of your 3 > types of controllers. It wasn't possible to do so, and that also made me think that a real HBA would work better. First off, with the AMD SB700/SB800 on-board ports, if I set the l

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-12 Thread Tonmaus
> On Mar 11, 2010, at 10:02 PM, Tonmaus wrote: > All of the other potential disk controllers line up > ahead of it. For example, > you will see controller numbers assigned for your CD, > floppy, USB, SD, CF etc. > -- richard Hi Richard, thanks for the explanation. Actually, I started to worry a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-12 Thread Marc Bevand
Russ Price fubegra.net> writes: > > I had recently started setting up a homegrown OpenSolaris NAS with > a large RAIDZ2 pool, and had found its RAIDZ2 performance severely > lacking - more like downright atrocious. As originally set up: > > * Asus M4A785-M motherboard > * Phenom II X2 550 Black

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-11 Thread Richard Elling
On Mar 11, 2010, at 10:02 PM, Tonmaus wrote: > Hi, > thanks for sharing. > Is your LSI card running in IT or IR mode? I had some issues getting all > drives connected in IR mode which is the factory default of the LSI branded > cards. > I am also curious why your controller shows up as "c11". Doe

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-11 Thread tomwaters
Hi, I suspect mine are already IT mode...not sure how to confirm that though...I have had no issues. My controller is showing as C8...odd isn't it. It's in the 16xPCIE slot at the moment...I am not sure how it gets the number... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-11 Thread Tonmaus
Hi, thanks for sharing. Is your LSI card running in IT or IR mode? I had some issues getting all drives connected in IR mode which is the factory default of the LSI branded cards. I am also curious why your controller shows up as "c11". Does anybody know more about the way this is enumerated? I a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-11 Thread Dedhi Sujatmiko
On Friday 12,March,2010 12:02 PM, Erik Trimble wrote: In general, I would heartily agree with Russ, in that the 8-port LSI-based PCI-E cards are very, very well worth the price. I'm a satisfied user of the Marvell-based PCI-X cards, too (at least, since the 2009.06 release). That all said,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-11 Thread Erik Trimble
Russ Price wrote: Can you tell us the build version of the opensolaris? I'm currently on b134 (but I had the performance issues with 2009.06, b130, b131, b132, and b133 as well). I may end up swapping the Phenom II X2 550 with an Athlon II X4 630 that I've put into another M4A785-M syst

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-11 Thread Russ Price
> Can you tell us the build > version of the opensolaris? I'm currently on b134 (but I had the performance issues with 2009.06, b130, b131, b132, and b133 as well). I may end up swapping the Phenom II X2 550 with an Athlon II X4 630 that I've put into another M4A785-M system. I noticed that the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-11 Thread tomwaters
Glad you got it humming! I got my (2x) 8 port LSI cards from here for $130USD... http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-SUPERMICRO-AOC-USASLP-L8I-UIO-SAS-RAID_W0QQitemZ280397639429QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4149006f05 Works perfectly. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-11 Thread Zhu Han
Hi, Thank you for sharing it. Seems like it's more cheaper than the HBA from LSI, isn't it? Can you tell us the build version of the opensolaris? best regards, hanzhu On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Russ Price wrote: > I had recently started setting up a homegrown OpenSolaris NAS with a lar

[zfs-discuss] Intel SASUC8I - worth every penny

2010-03-11 Thread Russ Price
I had recently started setting up a homegrown OpenSolaris NAS with a large RAIDZ2 pool, and had found its RAIDZ2 performance severely lacking - more like downright atrocious. As originally set up: * Asus M4A785-M motherboard * Phenom II X2 550 Black CPU * JMB363-based PCIe X1 SATA card (2 ports)