Dan;

I doubt either of us were being critical. My note was perhaps a feeble
attempt at humor, nothing more. No doubt RK feels the same.

TFlan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Neubecker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: question about installing ferrules (microwave boiling
of water is risky)


> Jeez RK/Tflan,  I was only offering a simple caution that might save
someone
> from injury, not trying to put down anyone's methods.  Take it or leave
it.
>
> RK, I respect your opinion, so when I first read your advice as to the
risks
> of using a drill bit instead of a reamer in certain situations, I changed
my
> methods.  I did this regardless of the fact that I had successfully been
> using just a drill bit for the past 7-8 years without ever sustaining any
> kind of injury.  Just because it "NEVER" happened to me before, didn't
mean
> that I rejected your caution that it could.
>
> Before any of you decide whether I know what I'm talking about, you might
> want to do a little research.  I just did.  Take a look at these links
> before you dismiss what I say.  If you care to ignore it further, well,
> that's up to you too.  I hope you wear glasses.
>
>
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/2020/PRIMETIME_010315_superheating_
> feature.html
>
<http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/2020/PRIMETIME_010315_superheating
> _feature.html>
> http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/superheating.html
> <http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/superheating.html>
> http://members.aol.com/chemeplus/NukingWater.shtml
> <http://members.aol.com/chemeplus/NukingWater.shtml>
> http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/consumer/erupted.html
> <http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/consumer/erupted.html>
> http://rabi.phys.virginia.edu/HTW//microwave_ovens.html
> <http://rabi.phys.virginia.edu/HTW//microwave_ovens.html>
> http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/microwave.html
> <http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/microwave.html>
>  <http://members.aol.com/chemeplus/NukingWater.shtml>
> Dan Neubecker
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:44 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: question about installing ferrules (microwave
boiling
> of water is risky)
>
>
>
> I agree Tom.   I've been heating water for 3 minutes, or until it boils,
in
> a glass coffee cup for about 6 years now and have "NEVER" had a problem.
> All you need is a cup, water, microwave and good common sense.
>
> RK
>
> Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair Equipment
>  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 09:27:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: question about installing ferrules (microwave
boiling
> of water is risky)
>
> Does this mean I can't heat my cup of water for a minute in my micro? I've
> been doing that since about 1988 for my morning cuppa tea. Never had an
> explosion. Guess I've been lucky. Or perhaps Stossel is a whining wienie?
>
> Seriously, that's one of the silliest "consumer warnings" I've heard. H2O
> exploding? Come on! Remember the old gal who spilled a cup of McDonald's
> coffee in her lap and sued for a zillion bucks? Or the gal who burned her
> lip with a hot pickle slice from Burger King? Or the lady in a wheelchair
> who, while crossing the street against a traffic light was hit by a car
and
> she sued the wheelchair manufacturer?And they all won lawsuits? I and no
> doubt millions of others have boiled H20 in the micro with no untoward
> effects.
>
> What the hell ever became of common sense?
>
> TFlan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Neubecker" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
> To: < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:01 PM
> Subject: RE: ShopTalk: question about installing ferrules (microwave
boiling
> of water is risky)
>
>
> > Just in case you have not heard this, it is risky to boil water in a
> > microwave. A cup of microwave boiled water can literally explode because
> > it can become super-heated, especially if the surface of the container
is
> > very hard and smooth, like glass or ceramic. I saw a demo on a news
show,
> > perhaps 20/20. I think it was a report by John Stossel. It was scary how
> > badly burned people had gotten from super-heated microwave water
exploding
> > in their face.
> >
> > I believe there is a safe way to do it, like stick a wooden spoon in the
> > water, or something, but I can't recall exactly. Maybe someone else can.
> >
> >
> > Dan Neubecker
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  [
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:39 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: question about installing ferrules
> >
> >
> > I do the same as RK but for 20-30 seconds or so. Remember to dry the tip
> of
> > the shaft and take a Q-Tip to the inside of the hosel to removing any
> > moisture.
> > John
> > shoptalk
> >
> >
> >
> > Ralph, I use boiling water to enlarge, hey Al T you like that word, the
> > ferrule. I put a cup of water in the microwave, heat it until it
> > comes to a boil then place the shaft tip with the ferrule in place as
far
> as
> > I can get it, for about 1 minute, then ram it home.
> >
> >
> >
> > RK
> >
> >
> >
> > Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair Equipment
> >
> > < mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> >
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  <
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
> >
> > Date: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 08:52:40 AM
> >
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  <
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >
> >
> > Subject: ShopTalk: question about installing ferrules
> >
> >
> >
> > I am getting ready to do my first "shim" and I want to perform a dry-run
> > before using epoxy. A ferrule will need to be used. Currently it is very
> > tight when I try to put it on the shaft; only moving about 1/4 inch down
> > the shaft.
> >
> > My question is what would be probably the best lubricant to use to put
> > on the ferrule for the test? I suppose anything could be used but I
> > wanted some more professional opinions before I tried something.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Ralph
> >
>

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