|
Dan, I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest over this or
anyother post. A newbee came on line thru ST and asked a
very simple question, how do you guys get a ferrule on to a shaft when it
won't go. I just relayed the way that I've been doing it for
years, that's all I did. Several other people came
on also with their way of doing the same job, as they, and don't ask me
who they are, said that there's more than one way to skin a
cat. NOBODY jumped anyone over this until someone,
not you at first, came back with the exploding water
post. "I NEVER" responded to that post or anybody's
else's post until someone jump on Tom about it.
And I agree with Tom on this, all it takes is a little common sense to do
this job. Like I posted after all of the
ruckuses that "I WAIT 3 MINUTES ""OR"" UNTIL THE WATER BOILS" which
ever comes "LAST". I hope that this settles the
issue once and for all as my med's have not kicked in as of yet and it's
almost 5:30.
RK
Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair
Equipment
-------Original Message-------
Date: Thursday, August
01, 2002 02:45:19 PM
Subject: RE: ShopTalk:
question about installing ferrules (microwave boiling of water is
risky)
RK,
Well, if you want
to parse words, what you actually said was:
"I've been heating
water for 3 minutes, or until it boils, in
a glass coffee cup for about
6 years now and have "NEVER" had a problem.
All you need is a cup,
water, microwave and good common sense."
Notice you said
"OR" until it boils, not "AND" until it boils. In addition, you
prefaced that statement with "I agree, Tom", which, I assume, means
you agree with his post. If you'd care to re-read TFLan's post
again, you will see that he ridiculed this
entire consumer warning, suggesting it was a bunch of baloney,
comparing it to the McDonald's hot coffee law suite, etc.
and ultimately suggested that I must have no common
sense. So, I assume you agree with
that.
I'd say it's
pretty clear to everyone reading what you thought of my
post. Are you changing your tune
now?
Dan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
Danny, Danny, don't jump to any conclusions, I was not
jumping on your response it was that I was just reading your post
when I decided to write my post. YOu will however
notice I said that I waited until the water "BOILED" in the cup
before I removed it from the Microwave???
RK
Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair
Equipment
-------Original
Message-------
Date: Thursday,
August 01, 2002 12:50:23 PM
Subject: RE:
ShopTalk: question about installing ferrules (microwave boiling of
water is risky)
Jeez RK/Tflan, I was only offering a simple
caution that might save someone
from injury, not trying to put
down anyone's methods. Take it or leave it.
RK, I respect
your opinion, so when I first read your advice as to the
risks
of using a drill bit instead of a reamer in certain
situations, I changed my
methods. I did this regardless of the
fact that I had successfully been
using just a drill bit for
the past 7-8 years without ever sustaining any
kind of injury.
Just because it "NEVER" happened to me before, didn't mean
that
I rejected your caution that it could.
Before any of you
decide whether I know what I'm talking about, you might
want to
do a little research. I just did. Take a look at these
links
before you dismiss what I say. If you care to ignore it
further, well,
that's up to you too. I hope you wear
glasses.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/2020/PRIMETIME_010315_superheating_
feature.html
<http://abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/2020/PRIMETIME_010315_superheating
_feature.html>
http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/superheating.html
<http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/~jw/superheating.html>
http://members.aol.com/chemeplus/NukingWater.shtml
<http://members.aol.com/chemeplus/NukingWater.shtml>
http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/consumer/erupted.html
<http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/consumer/erupted.html>
http://rabi.phys.virginia.edu/HTW//microwave_ovens.html
<http://rabi.phys.virginia.edu/HTW//microwave_ovens.html>
http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/microwave.html
<http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/microwave.html>
<http://members.aol.com/chemeplus/NukingWater.shtml>
Dan Neubecker
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:
Re: ShopTalk: question about installing ferrules (microwave
boiling
of water is risky)
I agree Tom. I've
been heating water for 3 minutes, or until it boils, in
a glass
coffee cup for about 6 years now and have "NEVER" had a
problem.
All you need is a cup, water, microwave and good
common sense.
RK
Manufacturer's of World Class Golf
Club Repair Equipment
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-------Original
Message-------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 09:27:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: question about installing ferrules
(microwave boiling
of water is risky)
Does this mean I
can't heat my cup of water for a minute in my micro? I've
been
doing that since about 1988 for my morning cuppa tea. Never had
an
explosion. Guess I've been lucky. Or perhaps Stossel is a
whining wienie?
Seriously, that's one of the silliest
"consumer warnings" I've heard. H2O
exploding? Come on!
Remember the old gal who spilled a cup of McDonald's
coffee in
her lap and sued for a zillion bucks? Or the gal who burned
her
lip with a hot pickle slice from Burger King? Or the lady
in a wheelchair
who, while crossing the street against a
traffic light was hit by a car and
she sued the wheelchair
manufacturer?And they all won lawsuits? I and no
doubt millions
of others have boiled H20 in the micro with no
untoward
effects.
What the hell ever became of common
sense?
TFlan
----- Original Message -----
From:
"Dan Neubecker" < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
To: < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:01 PM
Subject: RE:
ShopTalk: question about installing ferrules (microwave
boiling
of water is risky)
> Just in case you
have not heard this, it is risky to boil water in a
>
microwave. A cup of microwave boiled water can literally explode
because
> it can become super-heated, especially if the
surface of the container is
> very hard and smooth, like
glass or ceramic. I saw a demo on a news show,
> perhaps
20/20. I think it was a report by John Stossel. It was scary
how
> badly burned people had gotten from super-heated
microwave water exploding
> in their face.
>
> I
believe there is a safe way to do it, like stick a wooden spoon in
the
> water, or something, but I can't recall exactly. Maybe
someone else can.
>
>
> Dan Neubecker
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 2:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: question about installing
ferrules
>
>
> I do the same as RK but for 20-30
seconds or so. Remember to dry the tip
of
> the shaft and
take a Q-Tip to the inside of the hosel to removing any
>
moisture.
> John
>
shoptalk
>
>
>
> Ralph, I use boiling
water to enlarge, hey Al T you like that word, the
>
ferrule. I put a cup of water in the microwave, heat it until
it
> comes to a boil then place the shaft tip with the
ferrule in place as far
as
> I can get it, for about 1
minute, then ram it home.
>
>
>
>
RK
>
>
>
> Manufacturer's of World Class
Golf Club Repair Equipment
>
> < mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> -------Original
Message-------
>
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Date: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 08:52:40
AM
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Subject: ShopTalk: question about installing
ferrules
>
>
>
> I am getting ready to do
my first "shim" and I want to perform a dry-run
> before
using epoxy. A ferrule will need to be used. Currently it is
very
> tight when I try to put it on the shaft; only moving
about 1/4 inch down
> the shaft.
>
> My question
is what would be probably the best lubricant to use to put
>
on the ferrule for the test? I suppose anything could be used but
I
> wanted some more professional opinions before I tried
something.
>
> Thanks!
> Ralph
>
|
|
