ME was definitely junk. XP Home is OK. 2K Pro or XP Pro are better. I am a net admin, versed in NT, 2K, XP, Unix, Linux.... I'm not a MS zealot or a Linux zealot. I'd have a hard time pushing any non-technical person toward Linux. Just one of the reasons is lack of apps available. I also can't stand XP's interface, so I switch to the 2K-like interface.
I've been with 2 different organizations the last 6 months (got laid off and now am in a wonderful stable job that I absolutely love), and in both places we "back-tracked" to 2K Pro instead of the pre-installed XP Pro on new PC's. The reason? Concerns about a couple of proprietary apps that hadn't certified XP, and the users' unfamiliarity with XP. When I have a valid "business" reason to move everyone to XP, I will suggest it to my bosses. But I don't want half of the PC's with 2K and the other half with XP, because the users are not "techies". If I want them to be able to help each other in small ways with some of the apps (which I am not versed in), I need to at least give them the same OS. One thing I would recommend to anyone is to get some anti-spyware software. I have had over a half dozen co-workers and former co-workers whose PC's have been hijacked by these things. As far as I am concerned, many of these spyware things are nothing but viruses. The only difference is they are created by companies instead of individuals. Any software that kills your internet access, corrupts your network drivers, stops you from being able to use Windows Explorer, doesn't let you access your programs menu, etc., is a virus. That is what is happening. I had to reformat one PC, as all of the research I did on the web could not give me the fix. The others I have fixed. But even then, I've had to do registry edits, which the average user could not do. BUT, make sure the anti-spyware software is legit. Some of them out there are not. Do your research. (And of course, always use anti-virus and even firewall software). Hey RK, if it makes you feel better, my wife has trouble listening to me, too. At least she never seems to hear what I've told her! And I only have a lisp as a speech impediment! :-) I just thought that was what marriage is all about! Seriously, my mother-in-law has Parkinson's, had the brain stimulation implant, and still is hard to understand. Like Tom Watson said about ALS, "damn this disease". Neurololgical diseases are horrible, insidious diseases. Take care of yourself. -Andy > Mark, got myself a new DELL< Over priced piece of crap, that runs on XP > HOME > I think it runs on it, well at the very least it comes up when I turn the > machine on. Who knows just what it going to do after that. > > Jorge, Iwould really like to get into Linux, but talking over the phone is > good for me now too good for you, as my speech right now is very slurred > and > even Marion has trouble listening to me now. So just try and imiange > what > it would be like for a person that has not heard me before. > > From the looks of it my typing also is suffering a wee bit also. > > Richard Kennedy > -------Original Message------- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 04/12/04 21:03:39 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Conversion factors > > Oh by the way > > As I recall RK you used ME > > That is the biggest load MS ever made. > > Save your files, then reformat your HD and start anew. > Been working w/ my brother in law on this as he had it. ME was the > buggiest > thing ever. Any update from it would most likely still present issues. > > > > Mark A Patton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark A Patton > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Conversion factors > > > Sorry to come into this thread late (and I haven't seen what other posts > there may have been) > > RK, Your on XP (hopefully Pro) and having issues? > Dave T, you're on 98? > Linux? > > For what it's worth: > I'm no computer pro. I'm a lazy man that figured I could make a computer > work for me. > Started with OS/400 and at home once the PC launched used MS. 3.X was OK. > 95 > was a disaster, with 98 being only a minalization of that (har to rebuild > 98 > every 2 months). W2K was better, but much like driving a Semi through a > tropical paradise (getting the job done but inflicting casualties long > the > way, and not a good experience). > > Back when I was on 98, I tried many distros of Linux. Great for someone > who > knows puters and OSs, elsewise no go. > Later w/ W2K I tried again and found the same thing for the most part > except > Linux was more intuitive (ie like MAC & windows). Linux could catch > ground, > and would work well for me, but the apps I use aren't available (the same > reason I gave up on MAC years ago. Doesn't matter how well it works if it > doesn;t do what I need it to.) > > Made the change to XP Pro, and as much as I hate to say it, it has been > Wonderful! > No system issues, no my not understanding what I need to do minor points, > etc, NO NOTHING. The damn thing just WORKS (within reason of any OS under > constant attack)! It has just plain WORKED since day one with more > robustness than W2K or Linux ever though about, and with more > intuitiveness > than 3.X, 95 or 98. For the record, I really don;t like it's interface, > so > it was simply reconfigured to look like W2K (which felt like a semi > without > a clutch). > > I guess its just me as adoption rate is low, but as much as I would like > to > deride it, I really like XP Pro. > Word to the wise: any MS product that hints to Home, Education, etc is > crap. > Pro is the way to go (I guess that is MS terminology for "it works", > > > Mark A Patton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Corey Bailey > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Conversion factors > > > Hi Dave, > If you liked Win NT 3.5, then you will like Win 2K Pro. It's essentially > NT > 5. I use it as the default OS for the PC machines at home with one box > still running Win 98 R2 for those apps that need it as Win 2K does > obsolete > a number of apps and hdwe that run on 98. > > At work they just changed out everything for new HP's running XP. I hate > it > and it does not interface to the Novel network nearly as well as the Win > 2k > boxes they removed. > > Best, > > CB > Sorry for continuing the "non-golf" thread. > > > At 10:09 AM 4/11/2004 -0400, you wrote: > >>My issues are not UNIX skills. I have been a UNIX user since 1976. I'm a >>fairly proficient user of things like "ksh" and "sed". "Vi" used to be >> my >>editor of choice, but the current mouse-based editors have won me over >>(about 10 years ago). I waited until Windows got to NT3.5 before I made >> it >>my OS of choice. (I am currently running Win98.) >> >>Like RK, I dislike depending on Microsoft. And that's on the basis of >>up-close-and-personal; I made a lot of business and technical trips to >>Redmond (and Bellevue, back in 1983 when they were only 350 people), so >> I >>know them and how they work. And I'd rather opt out -- if I could. >> >>My problem is that I use a lot of programs and utilities that only run >> on >>Windows. I haven't tried WINE. If it works well (meaning not much lost >>speed running some of the apps), then it might fill the bill for me. But >> I >>don't have the time to experiment with it to find out. Guess I care -- >> but >>not enough to make migration a priority. >> >>Cheers! >>DaveT > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004 > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004 >
