I am reminded of an old saying "Future software releases are like bachelors wives and old maid's children: they are always perfect."
/Ed
Mark A Patton wrote:
Oh by the way
As I recall RK you used ME
That is the biggest load MS ever made.
Save your files, then reformat your HD and start anew. Been working w/ my brother in law on this as he had it. ME was the buggiest thing ever. Any update from it would most likely still present issues.
Mark A Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark A Patton Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 8:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Conversion factors
Sorry to come into this thread late (and I haven't seen what other posts there may have been)
RK, Your on XP (hopefully Pro) and having issues? Dave T, you're on 98? Linux?
For what it's worth: I'm no computer pro. I'm a lazy man that figured I could make a computer work for me. Started with OS/400 and at home once the PC launched used MS. 3.X was OK. 95 was a disaster, with 98 being only a minalization of that (har to rebuild 98 every 2 months). W2K was better, but much like driving a Semi through a tropical paradise (getting the job done but inflicting casualties long the way, and not a good experience).
Back when I was on 98, I tried many distros of Linux. Great for someone who knows puters and OSs, elsewise no go. Later w/ W2K I tried again and found the same thing for the most part except Linux was more intuitive (ie like MAC & windows). Linux could catch ground, and would work well for me, but the apps I use aren't available (the same reason I gave up on MAC years ago. Doesn't matter how well it works if it doesn;t do what I need it to.)
Made the change to XP Pro, and as much as I hate to say it, it has been Wonderful! No system issues, no my not understanding what I need to do minor points, etc, NO NOTHING. The damn thing just WORKS (within reason of any OS under constant attack)! It has just plain WORKED since day one with more robustness than W2K or Linux ever though about, and with more intuitiveness than 3.X, 95 or 98. For the record, I really don;t like it's interface, so it was simply reconfigured to look like W2K (which felt like a semi without a clutch).
I guess its just me as adoption rate is low, but as much as I would like to deride it, I really like XP Pro. Word to the wise: any MS product that hints to Home, Education, etc is crap. Pro is the way to go (I guess that is MS terminology for "it works",
Mark A Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Corey Bailey Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Conversion factors
Hi Dave, If you liked Win NT 3.5, then you will like Win 2K Pro. It's essentially NT 5. I use it as the default OS for the PC machines at home with one box still running Win 98 R2 for those apps that need it as Win 2K does obsolete a number of apps and hdwe that run on 98.
At work they just changed out everything for new HP's running XP. I hate it and it does not interface to the Novel network nearly as well as the Win 2k boxes they removed.
Best,
CB Sorry for continuing the "non-golf" thread.
At 10:09 AM 4/11/2004 -0400, you wrote:
My issues are not UNIX skills. I have been a UNIX user since 1976. I'm a fairly proficient user of things like "ksh" and "sed". "Vi" used to be my editor of choice, but the current mouse-based editors have won me over (about 10 years ago). I waited until Windows got to NT3.5 before I made it my OS of choice. (I am currently running Win98.)
Like RK, I dislike depending on Microsoft. And that's on the basis of up-close-and-personal; I made a lot of business and technical trips to Redmond (and Bellevue, back in 1983 when they were only 350 people), so I know them and how they work. And I'd rather opt out -- if I could.
My problem is that I use a lot of programs and utilities that only run on Windows. I haven't tried WINE. If it works well (meaning not much lost speed running some of the apps), then it might fill the bill for me. But I don't have the time to experiment with it to find out. Guess I care -- but not enough to make migration a priority.
Cheers! DaveT
--- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004
--- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004
--- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004
--- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004
