Exactly! If Fire is a worry I hope you have your cell phone near your back
pocket and not near your front pocket. Ouch! Just think of what could happen
if you stumble and fall against something and the battery shorts! A flameout
on the front side is not something I would like to experience!  But then
falling backwards would not be much better!

John

P.S. If flameouts really were a problem we would have heard of it on 60
minutes.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:26 PM
To: John
Cc: RCSE
Subject: Re: FW: [RCSE] Lithium Ion batteries

No more risk of what, fire? If the same devices with a similar charge regime
are used under the similar circumstances...the risks are the similar.



Quoting John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I use the cell phone chargers as I would with a normal cell phone. I plug
> the charger in and leave it (sometimes for days). The chargers are UL
> certified to put out only 4.4v or 7.8v and will not overcharge the
> batteries. Granted, all things can and will fail but if you leave your
cell
> phone on charge over night (in your house) your running more risk than I
do
> in the garage with isolation.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:24 PM
> To: soaring@airage.com
> Subject: Re: [RCSE] Lithium Ion batteries
>
> I first used Nicads in a model in 1963 and in my transmitters shortly
> after.  I have plug and forget chargers and battery testers for my
> equipment.  I have no need for more advanced technology that can
> start fires if misused.  Anything that stores power has the potential
> of starting a fire but Nicads can't fuel the fire.  If I have a need
> for new technology, then I will use it but I see no need to use
> something just because it is new technology.  After all, I was using
> Nicads for my airborne power packs long before most modelers.
>
> Chuck Anderson
>
> t 01:47 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote:
> >An accurate statement would be why do folks not follow instructions, and
> use
> >due diligence with new technology? It certainly is not the battery or
packs
> >fault when they fail...
> >
> >
> >Simon Van Leeuwen
> >PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice
> >Radius Systems
> >Cogito Ergo Zoom
> >
> >
> >Quoting Chuck Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > Why do so many people want to put a fire bomb in a transmitter or in
> > > a model other than electric?  The NiMh batteries in my Evo will last
> > > about four times longer than I will ever fly in one day.  If, by
> > > chance, I do fly longer than normal, then I will simply recharge the
> > > transmitter with the SiriusCharge mounted in my van.  In fact, I
> > > normally use the SiriusCharge to charge my transmitter and model on
> > > the way to the field so I always start with a full charge.  I haven't
> > > been  very happy with the service I have gotten with the NiMh and
> > > Li-ion batteries in my cameras and computers so I have decided to
> > > stick to Nicads for my model and replace the NiMh battery in my Evo
> > > with  a 1100 mah Nicad battery when the existing battery dies.  I
> > > will only have enough battery to fly three times more than normal but
> > > I can live with that.
> > >
> > > Chuck Anderson
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