Thanks Pete.
Jack Iafret "Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ed Berris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jack Womack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:29 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Legionair Questions > Ed, > > If a person desires to take part in an event, that person > obtains the rules and regulations for that event. To > participate in the event, one must follow the rules, or be > judged downward or eliminated for not following the rules. > > If a person desires to get the rules/regulations changes, > then that person should become an active participant in the > regulating body. Then and only then can one have input to > get rules changed. > > If a person doesn't agree with the rules, there is the > option to not participate. > > Make the choices, then act. > > Thermals, > > Pete Olsen, AMA CD > SWSA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Berris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 2:49 PM > To: Jack Womack; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Legionair Questions > > The idea that rules for Nostalgia class would be enforced > at the level that > Jack Iafret states seems quite silly. Isn't the idea of a > Nostalgia class > to bring fun to those fliers that appreciate the older > STYLED aircraft and > like a more relaxed flying experience? > > It seems that all hobbies have those that like making and > enforcing rules > just a little too much. What possible difference could a > boom made from > aluminum, fiberglass or carbon make. > > I remember going to a vintage car club meeting where photos > of beautifully > restored cars were being shown. There was a small group of > members who were > critical of a particular car because the bolts used under > the hood were not > the exact ones used in the year that car was produced. > Another car was down > graded by these same fellows because the color of the car > was slightly off > from the color charts for that year. > > I remember thinking these guys are way too serious. Here > were these > beautiful 1930's vintage cars and instead of appreciating > seeing them > restored and being driven they were put off by these small > "inaccuracies". > > Jack, you may be the keeper of the rules but I have a > feeling that some day > someone might just tell you to keep your set of rules. > Frame them, have > them embroidered on your pillow case or have the rules > painted on your > walls. But for me and a lot of other guys like me we'll > build the > re-introduced Legionair and other designs with some updates > that make a > great model even better. We'll have our own NOSTALGIA > class. After all > Jack, the idea is to have fun. Right? > Ed > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jack Womack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 4:07 PM > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Legionair Questions > > > > I guess as a CD, those written rules are there for > > interpretation. The way I interpret them, the carbon > > boom would be no different than adding carbon to a > > spar, or replacing the spar system, or changing the > > joiner system and subsequently having to change the > > dihedral angle. The spirit of these rules says to me > > that as long as the outline, airfoils, and basic > > flavor of the aircraft aren't altered, that such mods > > are welcome. If it's that strict, why not just make it > > strictly as designed with absolutely no structural > > alterations allowed, and let it go at that. That would > > forgo any arguments...unless of course the model is > > covered in opaque Monokote... By the way, Texas heat > > isn't good for most epoxy systems, so my boom would be > > painted white. How would you know if it's carbon or > > aluminum? > > > > Jack Womack > > > > --- Jack Iafret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For it to be truly Nostalgia legal the boom would > > > have to be the same as the > > > original. The rules state that the basic building > > > materials must be same as > > > the original. > > > > > > Jack Iafret > > > "Keeper of the Nostalgia Rules" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Wes Gibson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jack Womack" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 12:25 AM > > > Subject: [RCSE] Legionair Questions > > > > > > > > > > Jack, > > > > > > > > Thanks for all the good information on the > > > Legionair. I do have a few more > > > > questions though. First you mentioned that your > > > 100 is a floater with > > > > attitude. Could you please clarify what kind of > > > attitude this sailplane > > > has? > > > > Jim Early mentioned that the Legionair is fast. > > > Does it handle poorly at > > > > slower airspeeds? I am also concerned about the > > > aluminum boom. Does this > > > > boom hold up in rough landings? Would it be better > > > to go to a fiberglass > > > or > > > > carbon fiber boom? Lastly, is the Legionair > > > nostalgia legal? > > > > > > > > Right now, the Legionair is number one on my list > > > of possible kits to > > > build > > > > with the Viking coming in a very close second. Do > > > you have any idea when > > > Ray > > > > Hayes will have the Legionair ready for release? > > > This is a rather far > > > > fetched question, but what would you expect the > > > kits to sale for? > > > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > > > > > > Wes Gibson > > > > AMA #607029 > > > > LSF #7533 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jack Womack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Wes Gibson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 7:29 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Question for any RES, > > > Nostalgia and Woodcrafter > > > > pilotsout there > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wes, > > > > > > > > > > There's very few differences in the Legionair > > > 140, > > > > > 100, and 132. They all use the same set of tip > > > ribs > > > > > with different sweep and rib spacing, and the > > > main > > > > > panels are basically the same except for the > > > number of > > > > > ribs and spacing. The 140 used a 3/4" aluminum > > > boom, > > > > > while the other 2 used a 1/2" boom. The tail > > > design > > > > > was specific to each due to differing wing > > > areas. The > > > > > area for the 140 is 1325 sq. in. with about a 64 > > > oz. > > > > > target weight. The 132 had about 1250 sq.in. and > > > the > > > > > 100 had about 985 sq. in. I am guessing at the > > > 132 as > > > > > I didn't go through my plans collection yet. My > > > 100 > > > > > inch Legionair weighs 39 oz. and is a floater > > > with an > > > > > attitude. You can see my Legionairs on the > > > Skybench > > > > > site. > > > > > > > > > > The Grand Esprit is a model from the same era > > > and > > > > > quite a good one at that. I am building another > > > one > > > > > soon. Go to the Dreamcatcher website and look in > > > short > > > > > kits for the Grand Esprit. The carbon boom is a > > > nice > > > > > touch. I built one and, as I said, am building > > > > > another, soon. > > > > > > > > > > Hope that helps. > > > > > > > > > > Jack Womack > > > > > Conroe, Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > > > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > > Version: 6.0.518 / Virus Database: 316 - Release > > > Date: 9/11/03 > > > > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane > > > News. Send "subscribe" > > > and "unsubscribe" requests to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that > > > subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in > > > text only format with > > > MIME turned off. > > > > > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane > > > News. 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