Sorry, but it follows the plane as good as any low turnaround out there. It
pivots on the bottom plate.
I will bring it to the next contest for you to see. It is low to the ground
so the line doesn't get caught on it. No one unit is perfect for all uses,
but this one really works well for what I fly.
The McCann one doesn't pivot, which is why I said it needs to be mounted on
a spike with a bearing so it can. I have one mounted on a plate so it can
pivot. The ones on the tall stakes are good if there are no downwind
launches.
Jeff would be more knowledgeable as far as F3J and F3B goes. I would agree
with Jeff, if you don't mind an occasional walk, the WinchDoc one is the
best one that follows the plane very well and is pre-made. You can do what
Phil does and put guy lines out to each side to help keep the line from
getting caught.
Tom
T&G
32 Mount View Dr
Afton, VA 22920
540 943-3356
fax 943-4178
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Steifel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "rcse" <soaring@airage.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
Absolutely NOT. The best turnaround is one that can follow the plane. The
reason, if someone comes off the launch to the side, or snaps on the
launch the plane will veer hard to the side. The fixed turnaround limits
their ability to recover. The floating one follows the tension. Tom's
design below will abrade the line if it is off to the side.
The floating unit like the Winch doc is great if you advance to F3b, or
F3j as well. In that case you can hook off into the wind and launch
better. The ESL replaced their ground based turnarounds with Winchdoc
units. We had units very similar to the McCann style units.. Don't get me
wrong they work but the line stays low to the ground and abrades on the
ground too.
Also the McCann winches are great... One of my club uses 2 of them. But
the Winchdoc turnarounds are more functional
In the ESL on braided we keep them high to prevent the rash from the
ground
In F3B I keep it low to the ground to prevent the mono from being cut by
other F3B fliers.
In F3J it works great with either a fixed tow rig or a sliding tow rig.
Doug even provides both a screw, and a hitch pin for either permanent
mount or quick release like F3J .. I use the hitch pin.
Buy the winchdoc turnaround and you won't need to buy anything for F3J if
you decide to fly it , or F3b.. by any other style and you'll be back to
buy the winchdoc unit..
I don't know Doug, have never met him, but use the real balls on all ESL
winches, and own his turnaround... Quality stuff at a good price.
TJB wrote:
The best (for other than f3J) is a low to the ground unit. The ones with
stakes can get fowled with downwind or over the top launches. The tall
stake units often catch the line and make for long walks to untangle.
Using an aircraft pulley on a low pivot bearing is ideal. The line can't
get stuck and it works perfectly, even with off center launches. I made
one of these and absolutely love it.
You can also use the Tim McCann unit made by Erich Schlitzkus if you use
a stake with a bearing on it. The stock one works okay, but the line
rides up on the side with off center launches. Tom
T&G
32 Mount View Dr
Afton, VA 22920
540 943-3356
fax 943-4178
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Crane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: <soaring@airage.com <mailto:soaring@airage.com>>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 5:12 PM
Subject: [RCSE] need source for winch turnarounds
> what is the best winch turnaround? and where do i get it? thanks for
> ur help
>
> bob
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