JR / Spektrum put on a few discussions with one of the Spektrum's designers at the recent AMA show in Ontario, CA.  I attended one, interesting stuff.
 
Range and power are NOT the primary concerns that the Spektrum people have with using their system on larger or non-foamy ships.  The issue is that the combination of frequency and antenna size make it possible for larger planes with more solid structures or components to potentially encounter an attitude where the little antennas are masked from the TX, thereby losing signal, and perhaps, the plane.  This would not be an issue on park flyers, unless one were to mount a DA100 on one.
 
Other factors that may reduce range are atmospheric, most notably humidity.
 
Carbon fiber construction will definitely maybe possibly also have an affect on this issue of reception. So, if you fly DLGs in the rain and feel that the risk of being shot down by your good buddies at the field is larger than the risk of the carbon in your plane masking the signal, you may find the range of the Spektrum to be a problem.  Otherwise, it should work fine on the manufacturer's suggested applications.
 
He did indicate that Spektrum is working hard to roll out a version that will be suitable for larger aircraft. 
 
Lee Estingoy
Overland Park, KS
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: S Meyer
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] New Spread Spectrum Radios

Thanks guys.  Good link.

So, is 2.4G SS approved by AMA?  What happens if somebody wants to use a 2.4G SS radio at an AMA Club field or even an AMA sanctioned contest?  What frequency pin do you use?

Some fool is bound to try it, even though the range is less than 72 MHz.   However the range seems to be sufficient for DLG, (errr... at least most of the time :-)  ). 

Would be a comfy feeling knowing I can fly my DLG at any local park or small field and not be worried about being shot down or doing worse to someone else.


Steve Meyer
SOAR, LSF IV

At 10:01 PM 1/25/2006, Dan Ahearn wrote:
Should be fine on the slope. I flew my buddy's in a easystar to 1500' AGL (RAM2 varified) and about 1800' down range, no glitches no worries, solid as a rock. There is a great thread worth looking at on RC groups.... http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=452817

In fact, I've had a chance to wiggle the sticks on a 6102 converted to the Spectrum, folks are running with it.

On 1/25/06, Doug McLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 09:08:45AM -0600, Bob Johnson wrote:

| As I see it, the biggest 'problem' with using one in a glider is that the
| receiver has two antennae, each 3.75 inches in length that should be kept at
| right angles to one-another.

Apparantly each antenna is for a completely seperate RX on a different
1 MHz channel (but being spread spectrum, these channels can be shared
with others), so if one gets a good signal and one doesn't, you're
still good.  So having them at right angles will give you a better
chance of picking up at least one signal for any given orientation,
but even having them both at 180 degrees (i.e. straight) wouldn't be
any worse than a 72 MHz RX with a perfectly straight antenna (which is
pretty common.)

Bigger problems that I see are that the range is limited (though they
haven't really said just how limited -- but from what I've heard it's
somewhere between 1000 and 3000 feet) and that if you have a carbon
fiber fuselage, getting the antenna out of the fuse might be
difficult.  Note that the limited range might very well exasberate any
sub-optimal antenna orientations.

Also, being that it's 2.4 GHz, I'd strongly suggest against putting
any 2.4 GHz transmitters into your plane -- like any telemetry or
video transmitter.  Even if the exact frequencies used differ, I'd
still expect it to desense the RX and reduce the range even more.

I've never used one of the systems myself, but from what I've seen
they work fine.  The TX is a pretty basic computer radio, and there's
only six channels to work with so using it with a full house glider
will probably mean giving up some things, but I'll bet they're just
the thing at the slope with simpler planes.

They'd also be nice for situations where you have what looks like a
great slope or site, but it's only a mile away from an established
club and so you don't really dare flying there with traditional
equipment.

They need to hurry up and get a 8+ channel system with full range and
a more featured transmitter (either that or modules for existing
radios.)  It would be like a license to print money ...

--
Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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