At that point let the licenses lapse and purchase a current version of the best out-of-box solution when you need to...or roll your own. It does not make sense to throw away money on something that you will not use for many years.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Sebastien Sterling < sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote: > Interesting, so with this logic, Carbine Games who are locked into > Softimage for at least 5 hopefully 10 years, will have to repurchase their > entire pipeline in max or maya... > > Animal Logic who have 2 new Lego films green lit, will have to recreate > everything minus the meshes... > > > On 4 March 2014 22:32, Morten Bartholdy <x...@colorshopvfx.dk> wrote: > >> Thanks for clarifying Maurice. >> >> >> >> Morten >> >> >> >> >> Den 4. marts 2014 kl. 20:14 skrev Maurice Patel < >> maurice.pa...@autodesk.com>: >> >> > Yes this is the case. >> > Unfortunately these days license agreements are rather complex. The >> clause is there because subscription includes a certain level of support >> which we are not going to be offering in 2 years time. Whatever choice you >> make now will have pros and cons and these have been discussed on several >> threads but basically boil down to: >> > >> > - You can keep using the license you have in perpetuity, either >> by itself or augmented by other non-Autodesk software, a lot of which was >> discussed elsewhere >> > >> > - Migrate to the Transition Bundle - this is a single license >> that allows you to use two products (Softimage and either Maya or 3ds Max). >> You will now be able to use both products concurrently (the license >> functions like a Suite license). If you are on Subscription you can migrate >> at no cost. Even if you migrate you will still have two options depending >> on whether Maya (or 3ds Max) works for you or not: >> > >> > o If it is not working out for you, you can stop renewing >> subscription - you will then still be able to use both products in >> perpetuity (at whatever release version Maya or 3ds Max is on at the time) >> > >> > o If it is working for you and you renew Subscription, after two >> years when we stop support, you will be moved to wither a Maya-only or 3ds >> Max-only subscription plan when we stop Softimage support. >> > >> > o If you want to migrate but continue to access Softimage after two >> years, we recommend that you not transition all your seats or if you do not >> keep the Subscription current on all of them - that way you will have a few >> licenses that you can maintain to access older projects >> > Maurice >> > >> > Maurice Patel >> > Autodesk : Tél: 514 954-7134 >> > >> > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Peter Agg >> > Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:47 PM >> > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> > Subject: Re: License to END if you migrate?! >> > >> > I imagine this is Autodesk protecting itself legally - if they sell you >> a product then I'm pretty sure they're obliged to provide a level of >> support for it. >> > Doesn't make it any less silly for us though, of course. >> > >> > On 4 March 2014 18:09, Kris Rivel <krisri...@gmail.com<mailto: >> krisri...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > Ha...I read too fast the first time...now its even more confusing! So >> if you want to continue to use it, don't renew...but doing so forfeits the >> right to upgrade Max or Maya? That doesn't make any sense. Please tell me >> this an error. Everyone that is a paid customer should get transitioned to >> either one and always be able to run Softimage. I agree this needs to be >> revised. >> > >> > Kris >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Jens Lindgren < >> jens.lindgren....@gmail.com<mailto:jens.lindgren....@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > My translation of it: >> > "If you want to use Softimage after the transition period, stop paying >> the Subscription. If you also want to continue using Max or Maya that you >> have had the pleasure to try for free for two years, you are welcome to buy >> a license. Thank you for being a Autodesk Customer. Now please drop your >> pants and bend over." >> > >> > /Jens >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Adam Sale <adamfs...@gmail.com<mailto: >> adamfs...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > I totally agree Arvid. I know I will need to revisit old scenes and >> projects, and this totally shoots us in the foot/ head. >> > This is a completely unacceptable move on the part of AD. >> > Let us keep our old licenses, AND migrate. What harm is there in >> keeping the old licenses around? >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:43 AM, Arvid Björn <arvidbj...@gmail.com >> <mailto:arvidbj...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > Excuse me, but THIS IS BULLSHIT: >> > >> > "Please note that the right to use the Softimage license will terminate >> at the end of the transition period if you are still on Subscription. You >> will be transitioned to the latest release of either 3ds Max or Maya >> depending on your initial choice. If you want to continue to use your >> Softimage license after Feb 1, 2016 you should not renew your Subscription >> contract for a period beyond that date. You will be able to continue to use >> Softimage but will forfeit any future updates to either 3ds Max or Maya." >> > >> > I can see how offering Maya/Max might be a parting gift, but how can >> you deny the continued use of Softimage after the two year transition >> period? No fucking way in hell we'll just throw all of our data from almost >> 10 years back into the lake, we'll need the ability to open older Softimage >> projects INDEFINITELY. >> > Basically, there is absolutely NO way forward with Autodesk at this >> pont, I have to keep access available. Rethink, respond and change this >> policy ASAP, thanks. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Jens Lindgren >> > -------------------------- >> > Lead Technical Director >> > Magoo 3D Studios<http://www.magoo3dstudios.com/> >> > >> > >> > > -- -=T=-
