I would argue baffles not required. It is a special situation any time you
can't get 6' min, probably using 'Special Sprinklers'. I believe 6' is the
generic situation. Since they are already there, uhhh... I'm looking at an
exit sign right now with heads on both sides of it. Any time a head operates
the nearby heads are cooled by water vapor in the ceiling jet. If the fire
in these special situations is not controlled by one head, it will
'un-solder' the one a few feet away, seems to me. We should put the cost
toward avoiding obstructions to the pattern, not fabricating approved ones!

-----Original Message-----
From: AKS-Gmail-IMAP [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 10:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: baffles

The baffle is supposed to be able to stay in place. First compare the
softening temerature point for the plastic and the sprinkler temperature
rating. The more expensive plastics soften at a temperatures way above
typical sprinkler temperatures. Even if the plastic is not melting away it
may have lost enough strength so that it no longer functions as a baffle at
first blast, where upon it will become rigid again in a deformed state if it
is still there. That is the nature of a plastic. This takes you to the next
item. How the baffle is held in place influences how well the baffle will
stay in place in its greatly temperature reduced strength state. In case you
are thinking glass, the problem with glass is that it needs to survive a
temperature change shock and may itself drop out of its holder onto people
below. You cannot drill bolt holes in some heat resistant glass.  So you are
pretty much stuck with plastic if you want it clear. Get a candy thermometer
and heat up water i
 n a large cooking pot to 150 F or so. Put the baffle in there and leave it
for a long enough time so that it has become as soft as it will get. That
might be 8 minutes or more at least. Pull it out and use some vise grips
gripping it in the way it will be attached to see how soft it really is.
That test should tell you a lot. Let us know what you find out.

By the way, and it is probably too late now, only the more expensive hard
plastics, like what might be used in a hockey rink, will not be scratched so
easily from the wiping down cleaning it might get.

Allan Seidel
St. Louis, MO
 

On May 13, 2013, at 11:56 PM, A.P.Silva <[email protected]> wrote:

> NFPA 13 requires baffles (between sprinklers) to be non-combustible or
> limited-combustible. The contractor has installed plexi-glass baffles, and
> claims that is what is normally used and has been approved on previous
> projects.
> 
> Any comments?
> 
> Tony 
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