the sqlalchemy.types.TIMESTAMP type has dbapi.TIMESTAMP established as the 
DBAPI type object to use.    When the cx_oracle dialect is in use, the 
cursor.setinputsizes() method is called, passing in a value for every type that 
has a "dbapi" type defined with it, with the exception of a handful of string 
types which I've observed cause cx_oracle to make poorer decisions.

So when you use sqlalchemy.types.TIMESTAMP, setinputsizes() should be called 
for any statement where the type is known.   This should be the case for the 
version_id criteria used by the ORM.

If you use a TypeDecorator with get_dbapi_type(), that may or may not work in 
this particular case - it's very possible that your custom TypeDecorator is 
reduced to its underlying type object before get_dbapi_type() is called.




On Jul 23, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Tim wrote:

> I used TypeDecorator and get_dbapi_type to return the type object I wanted.
> 
> The parameters get the type cx_Oracle.TIMESTAMP for any filtering I do 
> myself, but the ones used in the version feature seem to ignore this and thus 
> still fail to locate the row.
> 
> On Friday, July 20, 2012 4:12:45 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
> The microseconds are getting in the way and getting rid of them does work. 
> Unfortunately, the trigger does not get rid of them and there are several 
> applications which write to these tables and depend on the microseconds.
> 
> It seems to work in cx_Oracle if I call the setinputsizes and use 
> cx_Oracle.TIMESTAMP as the input size. Do you have some suggestions on how to 
> add this to a custom type, or a decorated type?
> 
> On Friday, July 20, 2012 11:31:26 AM UTC-4, Michael Bayer wrote:
> 
> On Jul 20, 2012, at 11:19 AM, Tim wrote:
> 
>> The first thing I did after I started having problems was remove the trigger 
>> (the above was without the trigger in place).
>> 
>> That being said, it appears that I am having trouble with cx_Oracle and not 
>> SQLAlchemy. Using cx_Oracle directly, I can select a row by id, getting the 
>> timestamp. Then I try to select the row again, this time also using the 
>> timestamp I just retrieved, and get nothing.
>> 
>> Thank you for your help.
> 
> ah - you might want to truncate those microseconds off of your timestamp, 
> they're possibly getting in the way.
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:41:50 PM UTC-4, Michael Bayer wrote:
>> you'd have to check cx_oracle's behavior here in conjunction with your 
>> trigger (I'm assuming you're using a trigger here based on your previous 
>> message).   SQLAlchemy, as you can see below, runs the UPDATE statement, 
>> adding the current known version to the WHERE criterion.   It then checks 
>> the matched row count, which is on the DBAPI as cursor.rowcount, that the 
>> row actually matched, indicating that the row intended to be UPDATED was 
>> located and in fact had the correct version.  If your trigger is interfering 
>> with cx_oracle's ability to return the correct rowcount, then you'd get this 
>> issue.   So you'd need to distill your test case into a cx_oracle script 
>> that emits the intended UPDATE statement, including the version criterion, 
>> and then confirm that cursor.rowcount is in fact returning the correct 
>> number.  The trigger you're doing might be getting in the way.
>> 
>> If you aren't using a trigger at all, and this is just default "version" 
>> behavior, that should be working as we do have tests here which we run 
>> against cx_oracle with success.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 19, 2012, at 11:01 PM, Tim wrote:
>> 
>>> I can not get versioning to work in Oracle (it does work for me in sqlite 
>>> and Postgresql just changing the connect string).
>>> 
>>> I am using timestamp with time zones for the version_id_col.  Can anyone 
>>> verify that this does work.
>>> 
>>> SQLAlchemy==0.7.8
>>> cx-Oracle==5.1.2
>>> 
>>> Python 2.6.6 (r266:84292, Dec 27 2010, 00:02:40) 
>>> [GCC 4.4.5] on linux2
>>> 
>>> >>> import ver.models as m; import transaction
>>> >>> s = m.DBSession()
>>> >>> i = s.query(m.MyModel).first()
>>> 2012-07-19 22:32:54,807 INFO  [sqlalchemy.engine.base.Engine][MainThread] 
>>> SELECT USER FROM DUAL
>>> 2012-07-19 22:32:54,807 INFO  [sqlalchemy.engine.base.Engine][MainThread] {}
>>> 2012-07-19 22:32:54,818 INFO  [sqlalchemy.engine.base.Engine][MainThread] 
>>> BEGIN (implicit)
>>> 2012-07-19 22:32:54,819 INFO  [sqlalchemy.engine.base.Engine][MainThread] 
>>> SELECT models_id, models_name, models_value, models_ins_upd_timestamp 
>>> FROM (SELECT models.id AS models_id, models.name AS models_name, 
>>> models.value AS models_value, models.ins_upd_timestamp AS 
>>> models_ins_upd_timestamp 
>>> FROM models) 
>>> WHERE ROWNUM <= :ROWNUM_1
>>> 2012-07-19 22:32:54,819 INFO  [sqlalchemy.engine.base.Engine][MainThread] 
>>> {'ROWNUM_1': 1}
>>> >>> i.value += 1
>>> >>> transaction.commit()
>>> 2012-07-19 22:33:18,656 INFO  [sqlalchemy.engine.base.Engine][MainThread] 
>>> UPDATE models SET value=:value, ins_upd_timestamp=:ins_upd_timestamp WHERE 
>>> models.id = :models_id AND models.ins_upd_timestamp = 
>>> :models_ins_upd_timestamp
>>> 2012-07-19 22:33:18,656 INFO  [sqlalchemy.engine.base.Engine][MainThread] 
>>> {'ins_upd_timestamp': datetime.datetime(2012, 7, 19, 22, 33, 18, 655856), 
>>> 'models_ins_upd_timestamp': datetime.datetime(2012, 7, 19, 22, 31, 46,  
>>> 814740), 'value': 2, 'models_id': 1}
>>> 2012-07-19 22:33:18,659 INFO  [sqlalchemy.engine.base.Engine][MainThread] 
>>> ROLLBACK
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>   File "<console>", line 1, in <module>
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/transaction-1.3.0-py2.6.egg/transaction/_manager.py",
>>>  line 107, in commit
>>>     return self.get().commit()
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/transaction-1.3.0-py2.6.egg/transaction/_transaction.py",
>>>  line 354, in commit
>>>     reraise(t, v, tb)
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/transaction-1.3.0-py2.6.egg/transaction/_transaction.py",
>>>  line 345, in commit
>>>     self._commitResources()
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/transaction-1.3.0-py2.6.egg/transaction/_transaction.py",
>>>  line 493, in _commitResources
>>>     reraise(t, v, tb)
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/transaction-1.3.0-py2.6.egg/transaction/_transaction.py",
>>>  line 465, in _commitResources
>>>     rm.tpc_begin(self)
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/zope.sqlalchemy-0.7.1-py2.6.egg/zope/sqlalchemy/datamanager.py",
>>>  line 86, in tpc_begin
>>>     self.session.flush()
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/SQLAlchemy-0.7.8-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/sqlalchemy/orm/session.py",
>>>  line 1583, in flush
>>>     self._flush(objects)
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/SQLAlchemy-0.7.8-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/sqlalchemy/orm/session.py",
>>>  line 1654, in _flush
>>>     flush_context.execute()
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/SQLAlchemy-0.7.8-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/sqlalchemy/orm/unitofwork.py",
>>>  line 331, in execute
>>>     rec.execute(self)
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/SQLAlchemy-0.7.8-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/sqlalchemy/orm/unitofwork.py",
>>>  line 475, in execute
>>>     uow
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/SQLAlchemy-0.7.8-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/sqlalchemy/orm/persistence.py",
>>>  line 59, in save_obj
>>>     mapper, table, update)
>>>   File 
>>> "/home/timw/.virtualenvs/sat/lib/python2.6/site-packages/SQLAlchemy-0.7.8-py2.6-linux-i686.egg/sqlalchemy/orm/persistence.py",
>>>  line 504, in _emit_update_statements
>>>     (table.description, len(update), rows))
>>> StaleDataError: UPDATE statement on table 'models' expected to update 1 
>>> row(s); 0 were matched.
>>> 
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