I too use Titeabond, but only the Titebond II which is waterproof (above the waterline says the container). I have quite a few trestle bents and shingle covered structures that have been left in the garden for 5 plus years and have remained solid. Just be sure to wipe off excess as it is yellow. On the bents I was lazy, so I just tossed some garden soil onto a few joints to hide the glue line. Vic in CA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Vance Bass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Building Tenmille kits > > what glue is best these days? Is it cyano? > > Not for anything you want to last a while. I have found that CA glues > will bond wood very well, but not over the long run. From what I hear, > CA was designed to deteriorate in the presence of moisture (it was > developed as a surgical substitute for sutures), so over time it > weakens in contact with humidity, steam condensation, etc. > > I use aliphatic (yellow) carpenters glue rated for outdoor use. Check > the home improvement store for Titebond, Elmer's Outdoor or similar. > The Elmer's stuff I use is tacky in less that 5 and sets up in 10-15 > minutes, so it's almost as easy to use as CA in terms of speed. And it > doesn't fall apart unexpectedly at a steamup. > > regards, > -vance- > > Vance Bass > Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA > Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass > >