Hello Juan Nice to hear from you!
>Hello Keith > >As you wrote many Japanese vehicles are exported second hand, I've been wondering if there's anywhere they aren't exported to. I thought at first it was mainly to Southeast Asian countries, and a few other 3rd World countries, but most or all of the OECD countries also get them, and the former Eastern bloc countries. It's a slick operation, probably very profitable - once they're more than 10 years old they're very cheap to buy here, but the paperwork is VERY expensive: the older the car, the more expensive it is to own it. I guess that none of that paperwork is necessary if you're exporting them, so the buying costs would be very low, transport isn't that much, and the selling prices can be very reasonable and still include a healthy profit. After we'd haggled the price down quite a lot on our Town-Ace, the guy said he couldn't go any lower because that's what the paperwork would cost. We didn't quite believe him, but it's possible the car was free, we just paid for the paper. He needed to get it off his hands. >the Town-Ace >is a common one here in Paraguay (a Spanish speaking country) the 4WD or >2WD with diesel engines, the reason is that diesel fuel is cheaper than >gasoline here. Here there are more Toyota Hi-Ace, old gasoline powered, >then came the diesel engines in newer ones and the larger Previa is rare >because it was usually imported with gas engines. That sounds familiar. >Many Mitsubishi Pajero 4WD were imported directly from Japan, second-hand, >via the Iquique Port in Chile. The brand name for Spanish speaking >countries is Montero 4WD. Oh, is it the same? I'd heard of Monteros in Mexico. >The meaning for Montero is something or someone >that grew up or lives in mountains or it is a hunter and the meaning for >Pajero is someone that sells 'paja' or a straw-dealer in English. More >often Pajero is referred as well around here to a 'w_nk_r'. :-) >I do not understand how Japanese car companies marketing departments put >different brand names for the same product in different markets that it >suppose to be global, just some examples: They do cater for particular markets with new car exports. Maybe it's a market-research (?) offshoot of that - or maybe they just really like all these weird names! There are MANY cars that are never seen outside Japan, new or second-hand. Whole types and classes of cars, not just models. It's interesting. >Toyota 'Corsa' (corsican in spanish) = Toyota Corolla >Mazda 'Familia' (family in spanish) = Mazda 323 >Mazda Capella (small chapell in italian I think) = Mazda 626 >Nissan 'Safari' (hunting trip in spanish) = Nissan Patrol > >Best Regards And to you Juan. Keith >Juan > > >Didn't they call the early one the Previa too? > >Dunno - depends where in the world you were at the time maybe. > > >--- In [email protected], Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >That "town ace" looks a lot like what Toyota sold here as "the mini > >van". it > > > >was the predecessor to the previa, which was the predecessor to the > >sienna. > > > >http://www.velocityjrnl.com/jrnl/1984/vmd5024ov.html > > > > > > Never heard of the Previa or the Sienna. Marketing, sure, but also > > > Japanese car companies and names are something else. Do you remember > > > a while back when an Oz member said he had a Mitsubishi Pajero SUV > > > and a Brazilian member told him what it meant? > > > > > > >Our 94 diesel Pajero... > > > > > > > >what's in a name ? in most spanish speaking countries a 'pajero' is > >what in > > > >oz is known as a 'w_nk_r'. could never understand such a name in > >what is > > > >supposed to be a 'global' product.... > > > > > > :-) > > > >I thought they spoke Portugese in Brazil? Seems like Richard Fineman > >found out the hard way. > >They do speak Portuguese in Brazil, but many of them also speak >English and Spanish. IIRC this man was a Brazilian who'd lived and >worked in the US and Europe and now divided his time between Uruguay >and Argentina. > > > > D'you think I should tell them? > > > > > > Anyway I don't know why it's called a Town-Ace, it's geared as a > > > camper - sleeps two comfortably, or seats eight, or fold it all back > > > and you can get a big load of stuff in there. > > > > > > That could be a Town-Ace in the picture Steve, an older one, bit hard > > > to tell from the back. Hm... Sienna, okay, longer nose, smaller space > > > inside I guess, prolly faster. I don't know what they call them here. > > > > > > How about this? - > > > > > > >The Reliability Index Values are based on reported problems in 6 to > > > >8 year old vehicles. To see an extrapolation of the current > > > >seven-year Reliability Index gap between Toyota and the Big Three, > > > >go to the Bottom Line on Reliability web page of the Auto on Info > > > >website. This web page will give you an idea as to what you can > > > >expect of a new 2003 Big Three engineered model relative to a 2003 > > > >Toyota or Honda model. > > > http://www.autooninfo.net/AutoonInfo/TheBottomLineonReliability.htm > > > > > > Interesting stats. > > > > > > >Yes but what do they mean? Is -0.63 a big reliability difference or is > >-6.3 or -63.0? > >Seems clear enough to me. Confirms other reports we've had (archives) >about much higher quality control by the Japanese auto companies in >the US than the Big Three. > >Keith > > > >The comment "Second, there is no evident need to > >improve." seems to mean fron context that the sales do not dictate a > >need for improvement but it also may mean that the differences are not > >that severe. > > > >There is more to ownership than baseline reliability costs. For > >example the Honda and Toyota are (in my experience) more costly to > >maintain. Then there is the dealer experience. Ford dealers are why I > >have probably bought my last Ford ever. I was looking at Toyota for my > >next car but I think it will be a Diesel and there are no new car > >options that fit my criteria. > > > > > Best > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > > <SNIP> > > > >td Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
