> when (how deep) does a rock overhang / shelter become an actual cave? :-) Some judgement is needed, but the ones I've seen are pretty clear cut as being one or the other.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dshelter just says "A shelter <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelter_(building)> is small place to protect against bad weather conditions." which is mostly what these overhangs are used for, so I think it's the appropriate tag. If that shelter is frequently used as a camp site (now, not just historically) then can be tagged tourism=camp_site with a few extra tags from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism=camp_site to help distinguish this small camp site from the larger ones. Is "not meant for sleeping, no cooking or heating equipement inside" supposed to be a criteria for a shelter? I would say no. We should tag the rock overhang for what it is, and use tourism=camp_site to say if it's commonly used for sleeping too. On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 08:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 at 18:14, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Rock overhangs (rock shelters) have been quite extensively mistagged in >> Australia as natural=cave_entrance. >> >> Are there any objections to re-tagging these overhangs tagged as >> natural=cave_entrance to amenity=shelter + shelter_type=rock_shelter? >> > > No real objection, Andrew, but when (how deep) does a rock overhang / > shelter become an actual cave? :-) > > Also noticed in the discussion comments on > >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shelter_type >> > > "Can you look if this could be tagged as a shelter ? > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Champlitte,_%C3%A9craigne.jpg > Tounoki > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tounoki&action=edit&redlink=1> > (talk > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tounoki&action=edit&redlink=1>) > 14:16, 21 April 2013 (UTC) > If it is open to the public, not meant for sleeping, no cooking or heating > equipement inside, then yes, you could use amenity > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity>=shelter > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dshelter> +shelter > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shelter>=weather_shelter > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:shelter%3Dweather_shelter&action=edit&redlink=1> > " > Is "not meant for sleeping, no cooking or heating equipement inside" > supposed to be a criteria for a shelter? > > Some of the overhangs I've seen are pitch black underneath from many > thousands of years of cooking fires, & are acknowledged as places that > Aboriginal peoples camped during bad weather - does that mean they're not > shelters? (although I don't know what else they would then be?) > > Thanks > > Graeme >
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