Hi Josiah

> As far as I can see its not fatal. All tiddlers open are there. But it is 
> directly linked to from at least one normal tiddler …

It is indeed a frustrating little problem. It’s too late now, but I rather wish 
that we'd made system tiddlers display in plain text. Many of the core 
templates aren’t useful to view in rendered form.

I’m sure you’ll have figured out that the warning appears when a tiddler is 
transcluded from inside itself, setting up an infinite loop if we didn’t trap 
it. The situations where it crops up could be viewed as instructive :)

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
>   "storyTiddler Variable"
> 
> J.
> 
> On Sunday, 1 May 2016 19:24:51 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi Andrew
> 
>> Ah, a bit more poking around reveals that I was using the new fangled 
>> Metro-style version of IE11 under Windows 10 (I think it may be called 
>> Edge). That version does still seem to work fine, but if I switch to the 
>> ordinary IE11 then I’m seeing the same problems as you describe. I’ll 
>> investigate further,
> 
> OK, I think I’ve got things working again. I’ve uploaded a new prerelease:
> 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease <http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease>
> 
> There are a couple of fixes:
> 
> * The deleting text issue
> * The “repeat” error when using the heading buttons
> 
> Please do give it a try and let me know,
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> 
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy...@ <>gmail.com 
>>> <http://gmail.com/>> wrote:
>>> OK, after my disappointment recorded below, I came up with another approach 
>>> and I think have now got things working on Internet Explorer 11:
>>> 
>>> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease <http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease>
>>> 
>>> It needs thoroughly testing under other browsers too, but seems to work for 
>>> me,
>>> 
>>> Best wishes
>>> 
>>> Jeremy.
>>> 
>>> > On 30 Apr 2016, at 12:06, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy...@ <>gmail.com 
>>> > <http://gmail.com/>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Andrew
>>> >
>>> >> Now in IE 11, the whole edit field now clears if you change views and 
>>> >> also randomly. Something is wrong. It was working better. What changed?
>>> >
>>> > Nothing has changed in the code that updates the textarea. I think the 
>>> > problem that we’re seeing in IE11 with the textarea display not being 
>>> > updated is some kind of random bug.
>>> >
>>> > I’ve spent a few more hours investigating the problems with IE11 and once 
>>> > again I’m out of ideas; I’ve been repeatedly finding the same outdated 
>>> > information via searching Google, StackOverflow etc.
>>> >
>>> > The code in question is this part of framed.js:
>>> >
>>> >               // Attempt to use a TextEvent to modify the value of the 
>>> > control
>>> >               var textEvent = 
>>> > this.domNode.ownerDocument.createEvent("TextEvent");
>>> >               if(textEvent.initTextEvent) {
>>> >                       textEvent.initTextEvent("textInput", true, true, 
>>> > null, operation.replacement, 9, "en-US");
>>> >                       this.domNode.focus();
>>> >                       
>>> > this.domNode.setSelectionRange(operation.cutStart,operation.cutEnd);
>>> >                       this.domNode.dispatchEvent(textEvent);
>>> >               } else {
>>> >                       this.domNode.value = newText;
>>> >               }
>>> >
>>> > IE11 has the initTextEvent method, and so calls the first code path. The 
>>> > problem is that the value underlying the textarea is updated, but the 
>>> > display is not updated to match.
>>> >
>>> > Best wishes
>>> >
>>> > Jeremy.
>>> >
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