Hi Jeremy
The concept of an atomic datastructure sounds logic.
Yet two my mind there is two missing features:
-When you discover that the content you wish to change was transcluded,
it takes some time to get to the real tiddler; in most cases I have to
find and open with the searchbar.
It would be practical if transclusions were clickable Links in the
edit-Mode. Could this be done with a template or plugin?
-It would be important to have better Security mechanisms against
destroying links. Especially renaming tiddlers can have dangerous
effects. It would be nice if users were shown a Modal informing about
Links Lists and Transclusions for which the Tiddker has importance..
Regards Jan
In TWClassic when changing the Name of a Tag-Tiddler i was asked wheter
I wished to change the tags to.
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Jeremy Ruston <jeremy.rus...@gmail.com
<mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It’s clear that users want to be able to write/paste long passages
of text into a tiddler and then individually address sections (or
slices/chunks). In practice, I think that means that anything that
one can presently do to an entire tiddler needs to be possible with
a slice: transclusion, linking, searching, etc.
That means that the system has to deal with two levels of
granularity: slices and entire tiddlers. Internally, everywhere that
we manipulate tiddlers we’d need to support slices too.
In fact, slices would become the fundamental unit; an entire tiddler
would be a special case of a slice covering the entire tiddler.
That’s where things get interesting: now we’ve redefined a slice to
be a tiddler (which is just what we call a fundamental discrete unit
of content in TiddlyWiki). Now, for performance reasons, we’d want
to avoid repeatedly scanning tiddlers to extract the slices;
instead, we’d want to store the individual slices separately so that
we can efficiently address them as needed.
You can probably see where this goes: we’ve just ended up *renaming*
“tiddlers” to “slices”, and adding facilities to deal with sequences
of slices as discrete entities called “tiddlers”.
That’s pretty much where we are today: it’s easy to combine several
tiddlers to make them appear to be a single tiddler: we use
transclusion, or macros based on transclusion like the TOC macro.
We’ve still got the problem of dealing with long passages of text:
that’s where the text-slicer plugin comes in, showing one way that
these long texts can be split into chunks, and the chunks recombined
in flexible ways.
So, my position isn’t ideological, nor am I wilfully ignoring
feedback from users. But I am asserting that from an engineering
perspective it’s cleaner and more efficient to be dealing with a
single fundamental entity, and to approach the original problem from
the other end: by splitting and recombining.
Best wishes
Jeremy
On 8 Jun 2016, at 14:27, Jed Carty <inmyso...@gmail.com
<mailto:inmyso...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I am a bit stuck at the moment because while I don't want to
discourage any exploration into different ways of using TiddlyWiki
there is a TW5 way of doing what you are talking about, which is
to use either more tiddlers or fields which you then place
wherever you want them using transclusions.
Using templates you could have the anchor tag part of the
transclusion so you could navigate to a spot in an open tiddler.
If you want to be able to both open a tiddler and navigate to some
spot in that tiddler than we would need a more complex macro but
it may be able to be done using only wikitext and simple html. Or
we may need to make an action widget that does the same action as
clicking on a normal link.
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