Hi

One of the questions earlier was about the “offset oscillator” in the device 
and if it was tuned in any way.
If it is not tuned *and* it has modest stability, the exact frequencies you put 
in may impact the performance
you get. Since there seems to be zip for command set, I’d bet there is no 
tuning ability. 

Bob

> On Jul 26, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Tom Van Baak <t...@leapsecond.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, I'm evaluating a FSA3011 at the moment. It's a cute little unit. 
> Documentation is sparse, the jpg plots are fuzzy, "customer" support is nil, 
> but it works. My initial tests show it's ~4x worse than the data sheet claims 
> but it turns out the unit is quite dependent on the rise time and power of 
> the input signals so YMMV.
> 
> With 10 MHz sine inputs from a tee the noise is about 3 ps @1 s. I'm checking 
> different frequency and waveform combinations in an attempt to obtain the "<1 
> ps" value implied by the specs.
> 
> The output is phase difference, about once a second. Readings look like 
> "0.000000000591884\n". Note that last digit is 1 fs, which is ridiculous. 
> It's like marketing said, "let's make this go to 15". In fact only 11 or 12 
> digits contain actual information. Then again the TAPR/TICC has a similar 
> problem with excessive digits so who am I to talk. For the most part, fake 
> digits don't hurt, but realize that spitting out 15 decimal places does not 
> in any way imply the device can measure to that level.
> 
> The block diagram says it's a dual-mixer. It follows a very minimalist 
> design. Just two SMA inputs and a 115.2 kbaud serial-over-USB output. No 
> switches, no modes, no input commands, no GUI; a couple of labeled LED's -- 
> my kind of "do one thing, do it well, and do it quietly" device. Startup time 
> (power-up to first reading) is ~1 minute.
> 
> Since it first appeared on eBay there are now dozen(s) of clone [re]sellers, 
> which often happens these days, especially from far east sellers.
> 
> My current feeling is if it were half the price and if the documentation were 
> better and if they added clean ZCD on the inputs, they'd sell a lot of them. 
> Right now, I think they're just reaching for a top price to see if it will 
> sell. From the eBay history there have been only a couple of sales in several 
> months so that's their answer.
> 
> I'll have more info as the evaluation tests continue.
> 
> The sad thing to me is that for ten+ years I kept hoping someone on time-nuts 
> would make a similar turn-key phase comparator. A number of members have 
> mentioned their dual-mixer prototypes but I've never seen anyone take it to 
> the level where it's integrated into a working-out-of-the-box board or black 
> box like this FSA. A ps-level 1-100 MHz RF phase comparator would be (would 
> have been) a perfect TAPR product. With TAPR, you get open source, good 
> documentation, reliable and peer reviewed circuits, and superb support.
> 
> /tvb
> 
> 
> On 7/26/2019 8:11 AM, tim...@timeok.it wrote:
>> > Hi, > > for some time now on ebay they have been selling the FSA3011 
> > Frequency Stability Analyzer which would seem interesting as a fair > 
> > compromise between resolution and price. Some have been sold and I > would 
> > like to know if any of you have had the chance to try it and > therefore 
> > have an opinion on this instrument. > > Thanks, > > Luciano > > timeok 
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