Janice, you're so funny.  The more questions, the better.  Then we all learn 
something.  About the cathing, 
  I have had TM for 7 years now and have had to cath from the beginning.  I 
couldn't "feel" that I had to go so I needed to put myself on a "pee schedule"  
Then my doctor sent me to a urologist who worked with people with neurological 
issues.  She was great - after some testing (just a tad bit embarrassing) she 
diagnosed me with neurogenic bladder.  In my case, I could not empty my bladder 
completely.  However, I had a very strange thing happen about 2 months ago.  I 
had just finished another round of Rituxan infusions and one day realized that 
I hadn't cathed! Miracle of all miracles.  I still cath before bed just to make 
sure I don't need to get up in the night. I really have stopped thinking there 
is a "time limit" on this TM stuff.  I've seen small improvements in the last 
few years that really surprised me.  Like washing my hair in the shower and 
being able to close my eyes without one hand on the glass door.  Sometimes I 
still need to hang on or I will lose my balance, but I could NEVER close my 
eyes before.  Some of these things may seem small, but when you could not do it 
for years, it's actually huge.  I hope you and all the rest of us will continue 
to improve for many years to come.

  Oh, just one more thing - Janice, nothing is too embarrassing to talk about 
here!  We've either been there ourselves or know someone who has.  So go for it!

hugs,
Linda (Eagle, ID)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Janice<mailto:jan...@centurytel.net> 
  To: Trudy OGILVIE<mailto:mother...@msn.com> ; 
balmat...@aol.com<mailto:balmat...@aol.com> ; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> 
  Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 6:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] RE: wow, you work too hard Trudy


     This is Janice,
  As usual, I have another question.       How many of you have to cath?   Do 
you know if that is from having a
  catheter in too long when in the hospital, or is it a result of paralyzation 
onset taking a long time to come back?  Do you still feel improvement - cathing 
less, fewer wet pants/pads, more control?   Do you wake up in the nite to an
  already wet bed - you don't yet feel when you are peeing until it is too 
late?              I have not gotten control yet
  after almost 2 1/2 years.   I am improving, but not there yet.  Wonder if it 
will ever heal.   Just wondered if those
  of you that have had TM longer have seen any improvement after the "2-year 
mark".   Thanks for any responses I
  get.    I realize this is personal.          Janice
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Trudy OGILVIE<mailto:mother...@msn.com> 
    To: balmat...@aol.com<mailto:balmat...@aol.com> ; 
tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> 
    Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 3:27 PM
    Subject: [TMIC] RE: wow, you work too hard Trudy


    Hi Barbara, 
    Congrats on having 3 good nights of sleep! I'll bet you feel like a whole 
new person..  I really don't work so hard, I do pace myself and if it doesn't 
get done it doesn't get done. I do have someone come in every other week to 
help me so I'm fortunate for that. My washing machine broke and I am now trying 
to catch up on that disaster. My husband (Mac) is fantastic to me. It's odd in 
that seven yrs. ago when this hit we were having some difficulties.... that all 
changed when TM came along. Crazy I know.....   so is this damn TM .. only 
those of you on this list can understand words like "banding", numbness,
    fire and ice..... change your shoes ..... watch out... change your clothes 
..... watch out......   But I am back and committed to doing my exercises. I do 
feel much better and a real sense of accomplishment.  Again, so glad you're 
sleeping, it makes a huge difference.
    Take care - Blessings!
    Trudy
    Springfield, Va   (the sun just peeked out - it's supposed to go away for 
the weekend.   



    Worrying does not empty tomorrow of its troubles;
     It empties today of its strengths.




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    To: mother...@msn.com; tmic-list@eskimo.com
    Subject: wow, you work too hard Trudy
    Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:00:22 -0400
    From: balmat...@aol.com

    Hi Trudy,

    You work too hard, I could not clean all day, whether I wanted to or not.  
If not for a automatic washer/dryer, the wash would not get done.  And, if it 
goes for floors, I can do a small amount but not a lot.  It kills my back, and 
I'm in bed for days.  So, it's someone else's job.  I do clean the spots on the 
kitchen floor iwth paper towels though from time to time, since hubby or 
daughter in-law aren't really responsive on the job, lol.  It doesn't seem to 
be as important to them that it is and looks clean as it is to me.  

    My speed is dusting and cleaning kitchen/bathrooms and laundry.  I can do 
most things that are off the floor and I cannot do too much in a day and still 
manage to cook dinner.  I don't cook dinner everyday, but try to do it most 
days.  Pete (hubby) usually handles breakfast most days and it's a nice trade 
off as he loves breakfast.  That's one of the good parts of his retirement.  He 
also makes my coffee in the morning and then again at night.  And, he is sure a 
handy guy to have around I know that I don't think that I could have gotten 
through this whole TM thing without him, he's been so good at accepting the 
changes that it has made in our lives.  I say accepting, and I am not sure it 
is the right word, as it is a hard thing to say.  We do have to accept it, 
don't have to like it as none of us do, but we just roll with it.  It just is 
what it is.  Can't change it, and cannot deny it anymore, although I tried that 
for about 18 months.  Now, it's been almost 10 years.

    I use 40 mg Baclofen at night for spasms, and generally it works pretty 
well, although there are those nights when it doesn't seem to work.  Maybe it 
is and if I hadn't taken it, they would be a whole lot worse, but they 
definately keep me from sleeping.  That is usually on a day that I've done too 
much.  I've had 2 DVT's in my left leg, and sometimes I think that the problems 
and pain in that leg are worse than the complications that TM has caused in my 
life.  Although, I didn't get the DVT's until I was in the hospital paralyzed 
from TM.  Darned leg!

    But I have slept 3 nights straight and am a happy camper today.  Yippee!  I 
hope you all can take something positive from me and do something positive for 
yourself to get on the right track if you've slipped off as well.

    Hugs to all, Barbara A









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