Re: [TruthTalk] Eternal Judgmentg

[Lance Muir]

We'd all appreciate having a friend like yourself. One who acts as an advocate is truly a friend. He (David) however, is quite capable of speaking for himself, I believe.   One can accurately reflect Scripture and, the Heart of God, without a citation. ----- Original Message ----- From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 16, 2005 07:06 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Eternal Judgmentg I suggest that no one should respond to Smithson when he is being snide and nasty, and utilizing ad hom’s instead of scripture as his basis for argument.  Izzy       The Smithmeister responds: I will once again pretend I am on a discussion group rather than a David Miller "judgment for free" me the slave and you the Master with the whip site'      Do a couple of things for me,  David: stop reproducing,  adopt out the remainder of all your children currently living at home   -----   send them to a Florida county agency where they soon will be  lost to all official accounting but, hey,   they should be safe from your god and the eternal damnation of a loving parent.  Oh,  and start drinking/   It should loosen you up a bit.    This parent thing, David  ----   probably one of the most ridiculous statements of all time.   Profoundly misinformed in terms of biblical content.  Let's consider the fact that you have taken a wonderfully worded post and used its presentation to change the point discussion,  moving all of us from one of the most profoundly stated replies to one of the poorest conclusions of the recent past  -------    and I speak of the past 10,000 years or so.  I could go out on the street and open your statement to examination.   How many of a thousand or so respondents would  you to think might agree with you.  Now, where this redundancy might seem of no consequence to you,  the point is a simple one:  there is no evangelical appeal to your gospel  ---   it is not good news and is, in deed,  false on its face.   Perhaps I will have time this weekend to make a formal reply.   Until then, I trust there will be informed debate on this point.    If you want to discuss the notion of salvation at the hands of a Triune God,  that would be wonderful.   You might try reading up on the doctrine before making further comment, however.   You are among some are informed and well dentured.  Let's have a discussion, Miller, without the judgmentalism.  I can can my sarcasm and you can stop playing God,   JD    > Luke 14:25-27 > (25) And there went great multitudes with him: and he turned, and said unto > them, > (26) If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, > and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he > cannot be my disciple. > (27) And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my > disciple. > > These are sobering thoughts, but they define righteousness for us through > the revelation of Jesus Christ. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller.       -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:19 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: [TruthTalk] Eternal Judgment DaveH wrote: > In my opinion, God is quintessentially the ultimate > parent.  For him to do something contrary to what > a parent would do....defies my perception of the > Lord's love and mercy. Here's Johnny  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Still in Colorado and looking to both the question (MR. G)  and the response (brother Dave's) And looking stunned at just how remarkable both were.   Hat's off to you both. The problem here is that you are creating God in your own image, not realizing your fallen state.  In theology, this is called anthropomorphism. I have a rather profound question to ask, myself.   What is the theological word for B. S ?  Is it possible that Dave's response is based on the fact that God, Himself, is using our language and our conceptualizations to communicate some of what could not be understood otherwise.   If God is perfect AND the Father  --  suddenly, we know a lot about this larger than life personality ...... The Perfect Father.   No one on his forum can fail to imagine (brother Lance) an accurate description of the perfect Dad ... no one.  It is God who uses this "anthropomorphism.," not us.    It is ours only to read and imagine. We need to consider God's revelation of himself and not be tempted to cast God in our own image.  What person among us would destroy the whole earth with a flood?  What parent among us would craft a law which commands parents to stone their children who were rebellious and incorrigible?  The issue of eternal judgment can only be answered by God and his revelation of himself, not by our own imaginations of what we would like God to be. Shirely, the author of the above will be the first to admit that even he does not insist upon the mean old judge to the exclusion of the "heavenly father."  Hansen is not confusing these concepts.   God can be the perfect Father AND the perfect "judge" all at the same time, can He not? The Bishop With a single shot as he passes through the flat and windy plains of Eastern Colorado.   Hi G. J