Maybe he is unsure just exactly what he meant.

ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That might be a valid criticism except for one thing, Lance: You continue to refuse to explain what the scriptures mean to you.  I have asked for your input and you have ignored my repeated requests.  I can only assume that you reject the plain words of Jesus in order to believe what you call the “larger context within which you should be reading Jesus' words.”  You are the one with the “case closed.” Izzy

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 6:28 AM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow way not " loving"?

 

Izzy says: (my interpretation of her) Anyone who does not view this matter as I have come to understand it through my reading of Scripture is simply disagreeing with God Himself. Therefore, no dialogue is necessary. One need only read my citations. Case closed.

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Sent: March 16, 2005 07:16

Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow way not " loving"?

 


ShieldsFamily wrote:

DaveH and Lance, You are arguing with Jesus, not DM, Jt, Kevin and Izzy.  You condemn us for believing Jesus.

DAVEH:   Excuse me, Izzy.  I've never condemned anybody for believing Jesus.  If you sincerely think I have, please explain where and how I did so.

 

By refusing to believe His words:

 Matt 7: 13"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.  
   14"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

 

 Why is this? To say the we are eager for damnation of anyone who does not agree with our particular theology is a slur (as usual.)

DAVEH:   Do you believe those who do not accept Jesus as you do will be saved? 

Not because they don’t accept Jesus “as I do”, but because they don’t accept Jesus as He said they must: John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.”

 

And, if not....do you believe they will be tossed into a physical lake of fire to be physically tortured forever because they do not accept Jesus as you do, Izzy?

Not because they “don’t accept Jesus as I do”, but because they don’t accept Jesus as He said you must. So believing Jesus’ words is equivalent to being “eager” for others’ damnation in your mind, DaveH?  Such logic places blame for damnation upon those who believe God’s Word, instead of upon those who refuse to accept God’s terms of salvation.  Izzy

 


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