RE: [TruthTalk] Narrow way not " loving"?

[ShieldsFamily]

Myth..   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:17 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow way not " loving"?   'They' are, in reality, saying/meaning what you've ascribed to them. Their hearts are more gracious than their words, however. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: April 05, 2005 01:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Narrow way not " loving"?   DAVEH:   My latest post is in GREEN...... ShieldsFamily wrote: ShieldsFamily wrote: DaveH and Lance, You are arguing with Jesus, not DM, Jt, Kevin and Izzy.  You condemn us for believing Jesus. DAVEH:   Excuse me, Izzy.  I've never condemned anybody for believing Jesus.  If you sincerely think I have, please explain where and how I did so. By refusing to believe His words:  Matt 7: 13"Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it.      14"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.  Why is this? To say the we are eager for damnation of anyone who does not agree with our particular theology is a slur (as usual.) DAVEH:   Do you believe those who do not accept Jesus as you do will be saved?  Not because they don’t accept Jesus “as I do”, but because they don’t accept Jesus as He said they must: John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.” And, if not....do you believe they will be tossed into a physical lake of fire to be physically tortured forever because they do not accept Jesus as you do, Izzy? Not because they “don’t accept Jesus as I do”, but because they don’t accept Jesus as He said you must. So believing Jesus’ words is equivalent to being “eager” for others’ damnation in your mind, DaveH? DAVEH:  Not at all Izzy.  I see Christians as being eager when they use a phrase like "I hope you burn in hell" when they disagree with the actions or beliefs of others.  While you may not have had such feelings about non Christians, Izzy....I suspect there are a lot of Christians who do feel that way.  I quick net search and found numerous references to such eager Christians, Izzy.  Here's an excerpt.... The "misunderstood" ADF headline incited over 3000 hate messages to the school, ranging from the more benign, "I hope you burn in Hell for all eternity," to the more sinister late night calls like, "I know where you live and you work at that God forsaken school." We had two sheriffs full time on campus for two months, and it scared the daylights out of our children.  .........Do you think there have been any TTers who've hoped for such, Izzy?   If so, I would suggest they meet the eager definition. Such logic places blame for damnation upon those who believe God’s Word, instead of upon those who refuse to accept God’s terms of salvation.  Izzy -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.langlitz.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you wish to receive things I find interesting, I maintain six email lists... JOKESTER, OPINIONS, LDS, STUFF, MOTORCYCLE and CLIPS.