On Jun 28, 1:18 pm, PGage <pga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > A story on the Huff Po > (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/28/michele-bachmann-john-quincy...) > reports that MB did accept Wallace's apology last night in an appearance on > Fox News (she had not accepted it while on ABC News, but apparently Fox sent > out a memo for every> I don't need Poltifact to tell me that JQA was 8 years > old when the > Declaration of Inone to play nice). > > The story also reports that this morning, on Good Morning America, MB > repeated a ridiculous claim I think I have heard her make before, which is > that John Quincy Adams was one of the Founding Fathers, which justifies who > even more bat-shit crazy claim that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly > to end slavery. Apparently young George actually called her on it, but she > refused to back down, saying that "John Quincy Adams most certainly was a > part of the Revolutionary War era. He was a young boy but he was actively > involved." > > Even more substantially wrong than this however is her often repeated claim > that the Founding Fathers worked tirelessly to end slavrey, and that this > shows :under our constitution, we have the ability when we recognize that > something is wrong to change it. And that’s what we did in our country. We > changed it. We no longer have slavery. That’s a good thing. And what our > Constitution has done for our nation is to give us the basis of freedom > unparalleled in the rest of the world." > > Of course that is not what happened. But acknowledging that would go against everything the Tea Partiers/ Fox News Republicans believe. Beyond the challenge to American exceptionalism you mentioned to talk about this issue truthfully you would have to be comfortable with nuance, since there was a whole spectrum of beliefs among the Founders and differences between public and private behavior. You would also have to admit that many of them changed their minds after reflection and observation, which is anathema to modern conservatism. You would have to discuss how the Founding Fathers violently disagreed among themselves on this issue, and from there you are close to admitting that the Constitution is not a unanimous and explicit set of instructions from a group of great men, but a product of debate and compromise from people who disagreed about the same issues we disagree on today (executive power, centralized vs. state power, etc.) And finally and perhaps most painfully you would have to admit that the Founding Fathers compromised on a issue of "core values" for the good of the country and put patriotism ahead of ideological consistency. And all of that is about as likely to happen as Keith Olbermann replacing Roger Ailes. -- TV or Not TV .... The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tvornottv-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tvornottv?hl=en
