Re: HIG (How to make an Unclickable Check Box)

[Sannyasin Sivakatirswami]

Good idea.. and Chipp, thanks for the URL, I downloaded the HIG PDF,  
though, as Curry says, whether everything Apple suggests is entirely  
user friendly is an open question. but the point is well taken. Living  
here in Hawaii in paradise, and being born with rose-colored glasses, I  
was a bit amazed to assist a brilliant, successful attorney visiting  
from Mauritius try to install my presentation and get it running from a  
CD on his new Toshiba laptop running Windows XP, and show this on a  
screen via a projector. Aside from the general obfuscation built into  
the Windows OS (how it every gained such market share is beyond me...)  
if the young man from Princeton who was here on a short summer work  
program had not been at hand to take  us through some of the set up, we  
both would have been lost: point being that the UI definitely has to be  
"obvious."  Don't assume just be cause it is a triangle pointing right  
that anyone knows this means to click it to go do the next card ;-)

And, because we don't want to be creating any of those "simpleton  
standalones" that will bring disrepute to Revolution or Himalayan  
Academy, we give anyone a license to do a scathing review of

go url  
"http://www.himalayanacademy.com/studyhall/yamas_niyamas/ 
Yamas_and_Niyamas.rev

and send me a  no hold's barred, you-can't-hurt-my-feelings,  UI  
violations report  (off list) of everything we did wrong.... After  
spending so many years writing xTalk RADs for in house production work,  
I don't mind getting put on track for the average user in cyberspace.

TIA

Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
Himalayan Academy Publications
at Kauai's Hindu Monastery
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.HimalayanAcademy.com,
www.HinduismToday.com
www.Gurudeva.org
www.Hindu.org








On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 11:14  PM, curry wrote:

From: curry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003  11:14:32  PM Pacific/Honolulu
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HIG (How to make an Unclickable Check Box)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Pardon the intrusion, but it may be worth noting that an unclickable
 checkbox is a violation of Apple's Human Interface Guidelines and of
 general UI design rules about user expectations. I'd respectfully
 suggest some other way of indicating the user's connected state than  
a
 checkbox he can't click on or change. I guarantee you'll have
 frustrated and confused users.
There are also another couple of icons that look like a round  
indicator light off and on, those might not be bad with the button's  
text align set to right, then you can also have not too different from  
the size and shape the checkbox would have been.

However, about Apple--I can no longer consider them to be the ultimate  
example of good interface, as they were before.

Curry
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