Good evening Arthur It's night time here in London. The cover sheet on my copy of the two mss. says supplied to Mr. Robert Strizich crossed out then Professor Alan Curtis Music Department, University of California. I wonder if I actually got it from June Yakeley who may have got it from Robert Strizich rather than from the LSA. The pages in my copy are numbered in ink 57 - 158 for XL b.209 which suggests that some pages are missing at the beginning, and 4-150 for XL b.211. The last 5 pages of this are for 6-course with open basses. Does Boetischer mention that? I managed to get some of the folio numbers from Emil Vogl's article on Logy in LSA Journal but that doesn't help for the rest of the pages. We'll have to leave it at that for now I think. Best wishes Monica
----Original Message---- From: arthurjn...@verizon.net Date: 21/07/2017 18:44 To: <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> Cc: <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Re: Lute and Guitar Tablatures in CZ was Re: Manuscripts XL b.209 and XL b.211 Good morning, Monica! > You must enjoy cross-word puzzles. Because you have something similar puzzle in dealing with XLb.209 and b.211. Here is some additional information from Boetticher's RISM inventory: > b.209 has penciled foliation 1-73 (perhaps with the blank pages ignored). > b.211 Folios 144-46 are to be read with the book upside down (that is, backwards). We probably have Peter Danner to thank for the many guitar tablatures in the LSA Microfilm Library. I think he has a special interest in that repertory and was the microfilm library's first curator.> > When I searched the libray, I had 153 "hits" for the word guitar. Here's the link: http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/publications/LSA_Lib_Catalog.txt > Arthur Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: mjlhall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> To: arthurjness <arthurjn...@verizon.net> Sent: Fri, Jul 21, 2017 4:07 am Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Lute and Guitar Tablatures in CZ was Re: Manuscripts XL b.209 and XL b.211 Hi Arthur The LSA copy includes XL b.211 as well as b.209 all in one. It is not entirely clear where one ends and the next begins as pages have been variously numbered at different times. It will be useful to know which are the blank folios - I may be able to work out the correct foliation from that with a little bit of luck. Best wishes Monica ----Original Message---- From: [1]arthurjn...@verizon.net Date: 20/07/2017 22:02 To: <[2]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>, <[3]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: Re: [VIHUELA] Lute and Guitar Tablatures in CZ was Re: Manuscripts XL b.209 and XL b.211 Monica, I didn't see b.211 in the LSA library. Maybe I just missed it. Speaking of blank pages. We've got the world's champion blank page scribe. Wolfgang Boetticher's RISM Bvii "descriptive" catalogue of Lauten- und Gitarrentabulaturen has hundreds of manuscripts listed. But hardly a single composer is named and of course no titles either. But blank pages? He lists EVERY blank page in hundreds of lute and guitar tablatures. XLb 209. Folios 13v, 14r, 18v, 19r-22r, 36v-40r, 44v-48r, 50r-55r, 59v- 61r, 63v-67. XLb 211 Folios 5r, 10v, 13v-14, 16v, 17r, 20-26, 32v-39, 41v-43, 45- 63, 65v-67, 68v-142(!!), 144 I have a review from JAMS: [4]https://www.academia.edu/9263282/Boetticher_Handschriftlich_._._._La uten-_und_Gitarrentabulaturen_RISM_Bvii_ Regards, Arthur Arthur Ness [5]arthurjn...@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: mjlhall <[6]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> To: arthurjness <[7]arthurjn...@verizon.net> Cc: VihuelaList <[8]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thu, Jul 20, 2017 3:56 pm Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Lute and Guitar Tablatures in CZ was Re: Manuscripts XL b.209 and XL b.211 Dear Arthur Thank you for this. I have copies of the manuscripts from the LSA - but the pages are not numbered and also not very legible. Some pages seem to be missing as well or in the wrong order. But at least it is useful to know that they are not easy to get hold of! A pity but that's life I suppose. Best wishes Monica ----Original Message---- From: [9]arthurjn...@verizon.net Date: 20/07/2017 17:31 To: <[10]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>, <[11]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subj: [VIHUELA] Lute and Guitar Tablatures in CZ was Re: Manuscripts XL b.209 and XL b.211 Hello, Monica! These and many other lute and guitar tablatures were returned in 1993 to the Lobkowicz family, from whom they were confiscated by the <<<snip>> -- References 1. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net 2. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 3. mailto:vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. https://www.academia.edu/9263282/Boetticher_Handschriftlich_._._._Lauten-_und_Gitarrentabulaturen_RISM_Bvii_ 5. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net 6. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 7. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net 8. mailto:vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu 9. mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net 10. mailto:mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk 11. mailto:vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
