Yes, your quite correct my friend. It's my sons new Android phone he got
which has an 8.5 megapixel camera. He spent 30 or 40 minutes bragging about
it to me but you know how 23 yearolds are. <grin>
Regards,
Alan
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 4:09 PM
Subject: RE: knfb reader
Hi Alan,
The iPhone 3GS had a 3 MP camera, the iPhone 4 had a 5 MP and the iPhone 4S,
5, 5C and 5S all have an 8 MP camera. It is correct, however, that the same
8 MP camera on the 5S is better than that on the 4S or 5 since the sensor
has larger pixels and it has the 2-tone flash which yields better results in
low light. And yes, I can see how the processing of the image is best on a
5S and better on a 5 or 5C than it is on the 4S and of course it will yet be
better on the various iPhone 6 models which besides getting the A8 chip most
likely will feature a 13 MP camera.
I am not sure where you get the 8.5 Megapixel number, not that 8 MP or 8.5
MP would mnake a big difference, but here is part of a description of the 5S
eyesight camera followed by the link to the entire article:
The new iSight camera on iPhone 5s builds on the iPhone 5 camera in ways
that make a real difference to your photos. It captures beautiful images at
8 megapixels.
What makes them beautiful is a redesigned camera sensor that allows for
bigger pixels. Bigger pixels equal better photos. And better photos are
precisely what inspired the advancements we made with the new iSight camera
on iPhone 5s.
Larger sensor. Larger pixels. Larger aperture.
Light is one of the most important factors in getting a great photo. Not
just how well your subject is lit, but how sensitive your camera’s sensor is
to light.
Here’s how it works: A camera’s sensor — and the pixels on it — collect
light. The larger the sensor and the larger the pixels, the more light is
collected. And that translates to better, brighter images with truer colours
and less noise.
https://www.apple.com/ca/iphone-5s/camera
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: knfb reader
I believe the 4 and the 4s have a 3.2 megapixel camera. The 5s has an 8.5
megapixel camera.
Regards,
Alan
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:09 PM
Subject: RE: knfb reader
The 4S still has an 8 MP camera and I don't think it's that much different
from that of the 5 and even the 5S so I don't understand why KNFB Reader
would not work on the iPhone 4S.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 9:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: knfb reader
Yes, the camera is not good enough.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 31 Aug 2014, at 16:28, Mich Verrier <mi...@eastlink.ca> wrote:
as some one who has a 4s I was very sad to hear that according to the
presentation earlier today on nfblive or what ever it is called yes you
are right it will only work on the 5 and above witch sucks since I am sure
I am not the only blind person who has a 4s who is wanting to use this
app. from Mich.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly Pierce" <kellyt...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: knfb reader
I am not expecting this app to be as good as K1000 with a high quality
flatbed document scanner. Taking a picture of a document 12 to 18
inches above it does not yield the same image quality with a camera
millimeters from the document surface that is completely flat and lit
with a bright light again millimeters from the document surface.
Further, the user likely will not hold the camera at exactly 180
degrees from the document, as it will take the image with the phone
being held in the hand. Some are expecting perfection or results that
are better from software 10 times the price or with equipment 10 to 20
times the price. KNFB is not claiming this level of accuracy and
reliability nor can it really. It is the limitation of the technology.
The company says it will deliver performance equal to or greater than
that of the original KNFB Reader. This technology was widely praised
at the time, but it was unaffordable to many. Now, the price point has
been dramatically lowered. If it can match or better the performance
of the original KNFB reader without using a stand or an external
lighting source, the app will be worth it to me and I suspect many
other people. I would like to read signs as I travel and hope the app
does this effectively.
I am waiting until the product release before analyzing any more
information from the company. At the NFB convention, Jim Gashel said
the app would support the iPhone 4s in response to a question. Now,
it seems the company says the app will only support the iPhone 5
series and iPhone 6. I can imagine that final beta testing revealed
that the processor on the 4s did not deliver reasonable enough
performance. Yet, the company has now walked back from promised
product functionality.
Kelly
On 8/30/14, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
If KNFB Reader's ability to guide the user to take good pictures works as
advertised then in my opinion it's worth the price. Don't forget many on
the
list have paid $15 to $20 for 2 or 3 different OCR apps and another $30
to
$50 for some sort of stand like the Standscan or even more in the case of
the Giraffe, to make it possible to take the best picture possible. Add
that
up and a lot of people have already spend $50 to $70 or $80 and compared
to
that KNFB Reader is not so much more. I too bought a Standscan, but while
I
might use it here and there at home, I just can't be bothered to bring it
with me. For me being able to take good pictures and get good results
free
hand is definitely worth $99 especially since I explained how one can get
this for at least 10% or even 20% less by buying a discounted iTunes gift
card. With back to school they should be around.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: knfb reader
For 99 bucks, it would have to blow everything else out of the water 6
ways
to Sunday.
Regards,
Alan
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on
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my
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Pierce" <kellyt...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: knfb reader
Given all of the many changes Apple announced to the camera app at
WWDC in June, I thought it seemed a little silly to announce at the
NFB convention the release date would be two to three weeks before the
release of iOS8. Why not avoid all the goofs who download the app
right after release, don’t upgrade properly, and then complain about
the app not preforming properly. Releasing after iOS 8 would encourage
folks to install on top of the new iOS rather than the old one. From a
marketing perspective, many people in North America and Europe are on
vacation in August, going back to school, or otherwise tuned out. This
weekend, Chicago has its jazz festival. The last thing I want to do is
learn a new iPhone app on one of the last warm weekends of summer.
I agree with Sieghard, the KNFB folks likely ran out of runway and
needed to abort take off on the timeframe announced in early July,
causing us to speculate needlessly on why this company cannot properly
meet its commitments. This app has been hyped beyond belief. Will it
slice bread after it is released? People are expecting perfection and
the extraordinary. I’m waiting to learn about actual end user
experiences beyond a scripted demonstration or from the favored people
KNFB decided to allow to interact with the app.
Kelly
On 8/29/14, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
Correct, from what I heard iOS 8 is expected to be released to the
public
on
Wednesday, September 17 followed by the iPhone 6 on Friday the 19th. I
guess
we'll find out on Tuesday in a week whether there will be a 4.7 inch and
a
5.5 inch iPhone 6 or if there will only be the 4.7 inch model for now
with
the larger one to follow later. I also heard rumours now that an iWatch
may
be announced on the 9th as well.
Maybe the expected 13 Megapixel iPhone 6 camera which is rumoured to
actually protrude a bit beyond the thickness of the phone along with
these
under the hood changes will make KNFB Reader on an iPhone 6 even better,
but
that certainly is not a reason why the app can't be released for the 5S
with
iOS 7 unless they are just not ready to release it to the public in
which
case they should just say so.
Regards,
Sieghard
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: knfb reader
I believe KNFB are incorrect in thinking that iOS 8 will be released on
or
about the 10th.
Apple's event is on the 9th. If Apple's past timetable is followed, and
they
have been very consistent in recent years, the Gold master of iOS 8 will
be
released to developers right after the presentation.
That gives developers a few days to find absolute show stoppers, and
they
would have to be absolutely huge, for any change to be made. The iOS
itself
is released about a week later. That would make iOS 8 release day the
17th.
One possible reason for KNFB delaying the release is if they are using
some
of the cool new APIs in 8. There are a lot of under the hood changes to
the
camera.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org
On 30/08/2014, at 9:47 am, Gmail <englishride...@gmail.com
<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> > wrote:
At first I thought their reason for delaying the app's release actually
held
some water, but now that I have read your message, I agree with you.
Thanks,
Ari
On Aug 29, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
Well, that's one way to get another 2 weeks of time. The argument to
wait
with the release until iOS 8 is released is in my opinion just an
excuse.
KNFB had access to iOS 8 since June 2 and I bet they have tested the app
on
the various iOS 8 Betas and that everything works just fine. In any
case,
if
they release the app the same day as iOS 8 will become available to the
public it hardly gives them time to hear feedback and so on. Anyhow,
just
saying,
Regards,
Sieghard
From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com[
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
OfRichard Turner
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 12:28 PM
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: knfb reader
I was just about to post this from the KNFB Reading Technology web site:
Responding to worldwide inquiries, K-NFB Reading Technology and Sensotec
have announced today that the release of the KNFB Reader iPhone app is
being
scheduled to coordinate with Apple's upgrade to its new iOS 8 operating
system, expected to occur on or about September 10, 2014...Read full
release
here.
<http://www.knfbreader.com/pdf/knfb-Reader-Release_8-29-14.pdf>
http://www.knfbreader.com/pdf/knfb-Reader-Release_8-29-14.pdf
"Common sense is in spite of, not as the result of education." - Victor
Hugo
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 29, 2014, at 12:16 PM, "Trea Abma" < <mailto:trea.a...@gmail.com>
trea.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
On twitter:
The KNFB Reader iOS app will be released alongside iOS 8 to insure full
compatibility with new API's. <http://knfbreader.com/>
http://knfbreader.com
#Apple #iPHone
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