Horace, 

This is very provocative. Perhaps a simple static (pressure differential)
experiment could be 'telling' without going all the way to dynamic
circuit... IOW is "flow through" really necessary, given that Raney nickel
could provide the necessary cavities, in a static colloid, so that normal
convection would suffice?

Another option that comes to mind is that the boiling point at ~170 F is
only a few degree from that of ethanol. Some kind of fugacity experiment is
possible, but I haven't got a handle on it yet. The vapor pressure could be
amplified by a mix of the two.

.... wish Sparber could participate, as this is the kind of thing Fred really
enjoyed. He would be sure to bring up his patent for keeping a cow trough
ice-free.

BTW - if your concept worked, and a Casimir cavity boiler could produce a
usable Carnot spread between a hot and cold side of a constantly vaporizing
liquid, near its boiling point; even if the differential was small, then an
implementation might be a modified Stirling. It might require using very
large pistons or drumhead resonator - to squeeze much power out. The
efficiency would be very low but who cares? if the energy is free and the
thing can be constructed of cheap structural materials like polyethylene and
fiberglass? 

Anyway, let me say up front, having worked with carbon tetrachloride in the
past in the plastics industry (no 'Graduate' jokes please) that it is nasty
stuff, made more problematic by what some consider to be a pleasant
ether-like aroma. It is a solvent for many plastics and can serves as a
cheap and clear 'invisible glue' for acrylic.

That it has substantial volatility at all is somewhat of an amazement in
itself - due to the very high molecular mass of ~154 g/mol. It looks like
the vapor pressure is ~12 kPa at around room temp, and would be similar to
ethanol at lower temps (I think) but should vary more substantially around
the boiling point. Things could be interesting in terms of a hot-cold
dichotomy with the Casimir supplying whatever heat is removed, in the form
of kinetic energy, from an insulated Stirling system. 

Anyway, in side by side experiments, at the same temperature, in which the
CCL4 was used with or without a little Raney nickel, as a colloid, I am
wondering - would there be a meaningful pressure differential from the
nickel addition alone?

To make it more apples-to-apples one could add the same weight of powdered
micron-sized nickel to the other side. Would that pressure differential be
amplified if there was equal amounts of ethanol in the mix and both samples
were on the same hot plate at about 168 F ?

There are probably better ways to approach this, perhaps they will become
clearer after a caffeine infusion <g>


-----Original Message-----
From: Horace Heffner

PROPOSED EXPERIMENT

An experiment to evaluate CCl4 prospects for a Casimir force boiler  
would consist of measuring any boiling point depression from imposing  
a fine mesh barrier between the liquid and gas phases of CCl4.  A  
closed circuit with condenser would be used to recycle the CCl4. A  
controlled heater and stirrer would be used to maintain the  
temperature of the liquid phase.

The interesting part is deciding what to use for barriers, i.e. flow- 
through Casimir cavities.  One possibility is sintered fine metal  
powders. Another is stacked fine foils, like gold leaf, with a  
dielectric powder or micro-beads used as a plate separator.  Plate  
separation has to be under 10-7 m to obtain any effect.





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