If you armchair skeptics spent as much time reading the Steorn forum or 
Overunity.com, as guessing
and speculating and accusing here, you just might have a different opinion.  
Sean is responding to
questions on the Steorn Forum, and many guys on the Steorn thread on 
Overunity.com are making very
good progress towards a replication.  If you actually wish to discuss this from 
an informed
position, I suggest you start reading...
  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8411.1740

Attached is a graph that JLNaudin has done, so I think its an objective result. 
 He shows that the
inductance of the coils changes from a low of 185mH to a high of 962mH just by 
the rotor magnets
moving past the toroidal coil... Sean has mentioned this effect, so he's not 
hiding some KEY
elements of the design!!!  

No BEMF is also an essential effect, and has been replicated now by JLN, as can 
be seen here...
  http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm 

and about 2/3rds of the way down the page look for... 
  TEST 3: Canceling the Back EMF in the toroïdal stator coils

This is ANOTHER key element WHICH Sean HAS ALSO MENTIONED, to quote him, 
"...and by very careful and
specific positioning of the coils..."  But then, you guys wouldn't know that 
since you prefer to
spend your valuable time speculating here instead of trying to educate 
yourselves.

This webpage also has a graph of coil inductance vs rotor magnet position...

So, the inductance is LOW when you energize the coil, and ~5+ times higher 
inductance when the
current is turned off and the field collapses... I think you geniuses should be 
able to figure out
the consequences of that!  :-)

I STRONGLY suggest that you stop speculation and start education!

They will be allowing people in to make measurements with their OWN instruments 
(more than I can say
for 99% of the 'inventors' out there), and a German company will be doing the 
calorimetry. I still
don't know if its overunity or not, but they are much more open than nearly all 
OU inventors that
I've seen in 25+ years...

-Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 11:21 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right

On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence <sa...@pobox.com> wrote:
> I've been trying to get my head around the interactions of moving 
> magnets, toroidal magnets, and toroidal cores.  As I understand it, we 
> have a situation like this:
>
> 1) Toroidal magnetic core has a non-toroidal field when current is off.
>  Another magnet will be attracted to the core.

I don't recall that we know anything about the core except it is present in 
demo 2 Orbo and absent
in demo 2 Pulse Motor.  I don't recall anyone saying the core was magnetic, 
only ferromagnetic.  Of
course, it could become magnetic due to remanence.  Or it could be a high 
permeability metal with
lots of nickel and little remanence, a super-mumetal.

T

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