Esa: RE: the Rick Friedrich / Sean McC exchange... I watched a few of Rick's YT videos and his device is NOTHING like Steorn's. The ones I saw used simple solenoidal coils and not positioned symmetrically. Yes, he was lighting some LEDs and claiming to be charging a battery, but there were no instruments in the vids I watched... perhaps there are other vids where he does have adequate instrumentation? If you have one vid that you think is solid evidence that Mr F's device is novel, pls provide the link and I'll watch it... I have also read his comments (more like accusations) and Sean's rebuttal, which was unemotional, unaccusatorial, and based more on facts than Mr F's comments. Here are just three of Sean's comments: ---------------------------------- Hi Sterling, This is really my last mail on this subject, but having just read the latest long and rambling post from Rick Friedrich - I guess that I must point out the factual inaccuracies. First in a long list of errors is his reference to the term 'classic'. As anyone who has watched our latest video will understand we compare a classic pulse motor (a normal conservative electric motor) to Orbo. We make no reference to Orbo being a classic. 2 - The gentleman in question refers to the fact that Orbo contains unnecessary parts in order to 'hide' its similarities to whatever three monopole OU motor that he believes he has developed. As seen in the experiments there are no unnecessary parts - all parts are shown and Orbo has no relationship whatsoever to any 'three monopole' motor. 3 - Clearly the gentleman in question does not understand the complexity of thermal imaging when conducted under strong camera lighting. The thermal camera equipment, operator and advice on use was subcontracted to Ireland's leading thermal imagery company - Steorn had no involvement in the operation, settings or use (the settings had to be optimized to rainbow mode I have been advised due to the heat from the camera lighting). [the other 5 not included for brevity] Having read Mr F's post and Sean's reply, Mr. F loses hands down. Not that Mr. F doesn't have something novel in his device, I don't have enough knowledge of it to make that determination, but it is very different from Orbo. It is perfectly clear to me that Mr. F's post is filled with emotional accusations and numerous factual inaccuracies, and mixing of unrelated observations which I have seen numerous times from scammers... Bluntly put, my initial impression of Mr. F wasn't a good one! -Mark
_____ From: Esa Ruoho [mailto:esaru...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 10:33 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Back EMF: Sean may be right On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Mark Iverson <zeropo...@charter.net> wrote: I see on another list, Rick Friedrich is already digging into Steorn being a total Bedini rip-off, you can see such conversations between Friedrich and McCarthy at: http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-8199-Breakthrough-Energy-Examiner~y2010m1d13-Steorn-gives-COP-gt- 1-demo Again, I have no opinion on this, but have a firm feeling that Steorn have purposefully kept from immersing themselves in Free Energy -scene, they also don't know what Friedrich/Bedini have, and thus I would take the "net worth of your advice/knowledge, since you give it for 0$, is, obviously, 0$" comment from McCarthy towards Friedrich, with a pinch of salt.
